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Re: Ego states

Posted by gardenergirl on March 25, 2004, at 22:54:39

In reply to Re: Ego states » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on March 25, 2004, at 22:30:58

Dinah,
I realize EMDR was a really painful experience for you, but I just have to laugh when reading your response to your EMDR T. I absolutely agree that saying that to your face was certainly insensitive and oblivious. How awful. Your response was great! Good for you for calling her on it so perfectly. You have a knack for saying just what I would want to say to put someone in their place, but you do it SO gracefully! It's no wonder she didn't get it. Can you come to my office and talk to someone who needs to grow and be a professional? Pretty please? Because I have found I can't win no matter what approach I try. Even the usual rapport building skills fall flat or get thrown back with her.

But back to your post. You know, I am really in the process of trying on the IST approach right now. That's the beauty of the type of training I am getting this year. It's a really safe place to try a number of models to find what does and doesn't work for you and for different clients.

You may already know this from your reading, but to clarify for others who may be following this: The original model started with women with bulimia. There is not a great deal of research (at least not when I was doing my lit review for my CCE case) about using it with other dx's. I believe there is a study under way with depression. Perhaps it does not resonate with you because it really isn't right for other dx's or other personality types. The arbitrary divisions may not fit everyone.

The thinking, feeling, and acting descriptions were my attempt to avoid jargon. Again, you may know this already, but in the model, what I called the thinker is really an internal critic. The feeling part is called the "exile" as in the population studied, feelings were usually exiled into a place where they could not be "heard" and could not serve their adaptive purpose. The actor or doer part is called the "firefighter". This is the part who comes in and causes the binge in response to signals of distress either from the critic or the exile. The Self is supposed to manage the three and make sure none is usurping the role of another.

Sometimes I just like giving different parts a more concrete, visual image in order to help people separate them out in a two chair technique. I'm not sure yet I really can use this effectively all the time. Of course I always fall back to Kohut and to basic interpretation, mirroring, and working through transference. Just call me an eclectic!

I don't think my post derailed the ego states discussion, because it's been an interesting thread. I know I say this a lot, but I learn so much from everyone on this site. But if I did distract or derail, I'm sorry. And thanks for your response.

gg

 

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