Posted by beckett2 on November 21, 2019, at 2:30:41
In reply to Re: I am always in a good mood, posted by sigismund on November 21, 2019, at 1:29:07
> The 11,000 climate scientists and 'their world of pain and suffering' passed by, because this is a cult (isn't it?), invincibly resistant to evidence.
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> So it may be like Exodus, 'And God hardened pharaoh's heart'. But THIS time there's no one left to blame (How can I be so sure?) , no more Canaanite lands with the city on the hill. This time is different because we have to live with it. On that basis we should expect a war, but it won't work.
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> Faith is not strategy. They hate Putin and Xi because they can string together a strategic sentence.
>Yes, we've certainly lost the plot here. I suppose people are frightened by the strategies. There is, at least to my mind, reason to fear a government similar to Xi's.
Recently I've seen a backlash to climate change strategy from the general public. Smoke a mirrors you mentioned at some point. For example, the impeachment hearings here. There is always a clerk scrolling through a phone in the background. The breaking Fox or CNN or WaPo headlines then become part of the discussion or become the terms of the argument.
I agree. Climate naysayers here now call the 'belief' in climate emergency a cult. There must be a term for flipping the truth on an opponent (unfortunately seen as an adversary). America is freedom of choice and expression. You can pick you facts.
Sanders' comments on climate emergency tonight were particularly strong. I looked for a shorter clip, but Sanders starts shortly after 3:30 or so.
Yes, Crikey has a paywall. I wasn't able to read the other link you posted--but you can cut and paste if you have the will.
Btw, is all of Australia dry? I don't understand the climate 'debate' in your country-- and what Murdoch is doing in it if I have that right. The young man, the green in your clip above, it was heartbreaking. The comment section was full of poison. Exemplar of the backlash :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTZK7Da-bkU
like a bird on a wire
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