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Re: Yikes! I agree with Phillipa

Posted by Estella on August 8, 2006, at 20:44:16

In reply to Re: Yikes! I agree with Auntiemel » Estella, posted by Phillipa on August 8, 2006, at 20:28:58

> Tough one I agree and disagree. Yes to those being able to take courses and get a job to be proud of. No to those who are unable due to lets say ALS or something similar.

Yes I agree. I wasn't talking about people who are physically unable to work. But then there are different things that people who are physically disabled / sick are and are not able to do. Though sometimes... They don't believe they can do anything meaningful when their sickness / disability means they can't do what they used to do.

I was trying to comment on the 'lazy' notion. IMHO 'laziness' has another name: depression.

It is a social problem. Medical model locates the cause of blame and responsibility within the individual...

We evolved to live in close kin groups and I don't think we have evolved out of the need for social support just yet ;-)

Oftentimes I think that what is typically considered to be a problem within the individual e.g. they are *just* lazy is more a problem with society - what is it that society has done to show them that they *can* have a productive place in it?

social problems... need a social solution imho...

and it can be really really really really really very hard imho.

i don't really understand the volountary work structure in the US... i've heard someone say that they couldn't get volountary work. i don't really understand that one... i guess not as many people do volountary work where i'm from. it isn't a factor on applications or anything like that (though kudos to you if you do it off your own bat of course).

i don't know...

but if you are thinking of you...
what would you like to do?
i mean... you don't have money troubles - do you?
you are fairly close to retirement (so retraining can be much harder)
you were in a very high anxiety job...

people should be able to retire at some point, shouldn't they?

and of course solo parents trying to raise kids... imho that jolly well *should* be paid work.



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