Posted by zeugma on November 1, 2005, at 20:14:55
In reply to Re: the Ministry of Civility » zeugma, posted by Declan on November 1, 2005, at 13:32:24
> I'm pretty ignorant about US politics, but I was thinking about McCain......he's proof that political position is much less important than personal integrity. That's my version of personal integrity I guess, but being straight with the public is part of it. (That's the awful thing about politics, the good guys always lose).
> Declansad to say that I agree with you there.
What I am preoccupied with is the danger the current policies are causing for the general public and for the u.s. military. see this article
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2005/10/guantanamo-process-as-public-danger.php
It is worthy of note that the writer of this story calls for more rigorous investigations, 'pounding the pavement' as they say. But since the CIA appears to be so at odds with the administration, who is going to be punding the pavement? And also, sloppy investigation of detainees, reliance on torture, leads to suffering that one does not like to contemplate in anyone not implicated in a plot to blow up a city (that sentence pains me to write also, as i do not condone torture for even sucha figure, even as i understand the pain that one might feel if one was the target of a successful attack).
note rumsfeld's statement at the end of this article describing policies at guantanomo. I believe it to be an extremely civil statement, in the sense that Lao-tzu meant at the end of his poem when he said that "ceremony remains...all disorder's origin." That is also my civil comment on the civility rules here.
-z
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