Posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2008, at 13:29:58
In reply to Re: Severe neck/shoulder pain, posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2008, at 13:23:01
Here they are may not have copied don't think that is it. Phillipa
If you are devastated by symptoms of severe widespread pain and daytime exhaustion, yet your blood tests are normal, you may have fibromyalgia syndrome or chronic fatigue syndrome. Both are serious chronic illnesses that have specific criteria for diagnosis, but may be overlooked. Also, you should be aware that the distinction between fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome is "very fuzzy rather than sharp," and up to 70% of fibromyalgia patients meet the diagnosis for chronic fatigue syndrome.*Fibromyalgia Syndrome (FMS)
Routine lab tests do not detect the widespread pain of fibromyalgia. Instead, the diagnosis is made by a physical exam that takes about five minutes. When light pressure is applied to the surface of the muscles throughout the body, patients with fibromyalgia find this painful, especially at the tender points used for diagnosis.To meet the fibromyalgia criteria for diagnosis, patients must have:
A. Widespread pain in all four quadrants of their body for a minimum of three monthsB. At least 11 of the 18 specified tender points (see diagram**)
The 18 sites used for the fibromyalgia diagnosis cluster around the neck, shoulder, chest, hip, knee, and elbow regions. The finger pressure that must be applied to these areas during a "palpation" exam is roughly equivalent to the amount that causes the finger nail bed to blanch or start to become white. Over 75 other tender points have been found to exist, but are not used for diagnostic purposes.
While many chronic pain syndromes display symptoms that overlap with fibromyalgia, the 1990 American College of Rheumatology (ACR) multi-center criteria study (published in the February 1990 issue of Arthritis and Rheumatism) evaluated a total of 558 patients, of which 265 were classified as controls. These control individuals weren't your typical healthy "normals." They were age and sex matched patients with neck pain syndrome, low back pain, local tendonitis, trauma-related pain syndromes, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, osteoarthritis of the knee or hand, and other painful disorders. These patients all had some symptoms that mimic fibromyalgia, but the trained examiners were not foiledthey hand-picked the fibromyalgia patients out of the "chronically ill" melting pot with an accuracy of 88%. Fibromyalgia is not a wastebasket diagnosis!
Although the above diagnosis focuses on tender point count, a consensus of 35 fibromyalgia experts published a report in 1996 saying that a person does not need to have the required 11 tender points to be diagnosed and treated for fibromyalgia (Wolfe F, et al. J Rheumatology 23(3):534-9, 1996). This criteria was created for research purposes and many people may still have fibromyalgia with less than 11 of the required tender points as long as they have widespread pain and many of the commonly associated symptoms below.
fatigue
irritable bowel (e.g., diarrhea, constipation, etc.)
sleep disorder (or sleep that is unrefreshing)
chronic headaches (tension-type or migraines)
jaw pain (including TMJ dysfunction)
cognitive or memory impairment
post-exertional malaise and muscle pain
morning stiffness (waking up stiff and achy)
menstrual cramping
numbness and tingling sensations
dizziness or lightheadedness
skin and chemical sensitivities
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