Posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2011, at 17:33:57
In reply to Lou's request-hyzoriklheyt » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2011, at 17:12:31
> > Lou, religions include all sorts of people, and wherever there are people there will be people who overvalue money. I don't see what it has to do with Judaism. I daresay there are a few Christian leaders whose tables Jesus would overturn. I think what he was objecting to was using religion to make money, in excess of what he considered reasonable.
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> > I think there is some misperception among some Christians that Jesus' criticisms were directed at "Jews". I see Jesus' criticisms directed at Jews who weren't being very good Jews. Who weren't living up to the ideals of their Jewish faith. I see Jesus as addressing us all, no matter what our faith, to be better people and to love and serve God with all our hearts. If he addressed Jews in particular, it was because those were his people, and because he loved his people and his God.
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> Dinah,
> You wrote,[...people who overvalue money...I think that what (H)e was objecting to was using religion to make money in excesss of what (H)e considerd reasonable...].
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by posting that here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordinglyy.
> A.Have you read the passage where the scene is described that is posted about by the other poster here?
> B. If not, could you look it up and read it?
> C. If you have read the passage, is there anything said about the moneychangers having a love for money or that (H)e was disgusted?If so, could you post here the citation(s) from that passage?
> D.Is there anything said in that passage about the monychangers using religion to make money in excess of what (H)e thought was reasonable? If so, could you post te citation?
> E. Do you know who the moneychangers were in that passage? If so, could you post your identification of them here?
> F. What period of the year was the passage in context with as pertaining to the Jews?
> G. Do you have any understanding of what the passage could be about in relation to the sacrifices of doves from a Jewish perspective?
> H. redacted by respondent
> K. Is it fair, in your opinion, for the moneychangers to be called those that used religion to make money and making a profit in excess of what (H)e thought to be reasonable, if that statement toward those Jews is not in the record in that passage?
> L. Do you know of any historical use of the passage that has been used to arouse antisemitic feelings?
> M. redacted by respondent
> LouDinah,
There could be a misunderstanding here in relation to the identification of the [he].
It could be since Jesus is involved that the [he] is He. Or, is it possible also that the {he} could be the other poster?
Please clarify as to who the [he] is in your post, if it needs to be modified, so that I can modify if requierd my requests to you.
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
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