Posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2011, at 4:38:25
In reply to Re: Lou's request-mnwomn » Lou Pilder, posted by floatingbridge on September 16, 2011, at 0:36:18
> > > That's the title of the Harold Kushner book I am reading and loving right now. It is helping me with my childhood religious damage. It is a comforting and sane revisiting of the myth of Adam and Eve and their expulsion form Paradise. That's a myth that has, being misread IMO, has brought so much unnecessary suffering in a world in which suffering is already an intrinsic part.
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> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316519332?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwgoodco-
> 20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0316519332&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2
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> > > Wow. Long URL. Hope it works.
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> > fb,
> > You wrote,[...the xxxx of Adam and Eve...been misread..suffering...].
> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > A. Is it possible for Adam and Eve to not be mythical? If not, why not?
> > B. If it is misread, how could it be read instead?
> > C. What is the suffering from as to what is written in the reading about Adam and Eve?
> > Lou
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> Hi Lou,
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> I imagine it is possible Adam and Eve were actual people. Is this what you are asking? I think of them as mythical. I don't know why, really. I don't have anything to back up either position that I think would be helpful here.
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> Sometimes people can read Genisis and criticize Eve and from there, begin to disrespect all women in general. That's the first answer that comes to mind, and it's a small example. Kushner's entire book is about how he interprets their story in a positive light that he finds brings healing to his congregation. I'm not finished with it, but I can reccommend it as good reading to address your questions better than I can.
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> I am not sure I understand part C, or if I do, I can really address what I see as a profound question. You are asking what is the suffering from? Maybe from a deep sense of being unworthy of God's love, and a deep shame humanity caused God to reject us? Isolation and being unloved or feeling like an outcast can be intolerable for human beings. Humans seem to need connection.
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> You know, Lou, these are just my personal beliefs.
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> Have you been interested in Genesis, too? I hope it doesn't trouble you the way it does me.
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> A poet once wrote that something "hurts me the way the world hurts God."
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> Does the world hurt God? Some people think so. I don't know. Do you think so?
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> Very nice talking with you, Lou.
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> fb,
You wrote,[...have you been interested in Genesis...?].
What has been revealed to me, if I was permitted to post all of that here, IMHO could save your life and you could become free from the suffering that you describe here in relation to whatever in the book called Genesis has caused you.
You see, Mr. Hsiung has posted prohibitions to me here that preclude me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me and other related concepts. What I could post to you here would cause me to include the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. These preohibitions have a historical parallel that I also can not post here about. And there is a prohibition to me that I can not post the links to the posts that have the prohibitions. You may get an understanding of this better by reading all of the outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung on the administration board.
I did post some about what has been revealed to me concerning the Garden and Adam an Eve. Here is a link to one post and you could go through that thread to see some of what I have been trying to share with others here that IMHO if they were allowed to hear all of the revelation to me, they could be made free from their suffering.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080404/msgs/841698.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:996833
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/996903.html