Posted by Lou PIlder on March 9, 2013, at 19:45:42
In reply to Re: Lou' request-mrngsptr » Lou PIlder, posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 15:46:24
> Lou,
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> See below for my responses to your questions.
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> > A. Which God do you have a relationship with?
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> I don't know the name of the God who I feel like I have a relationship with, but I feel like God as I know Him is a spiritual presence beyond myself that knows the future and has a forgiving nature. The first thing that I feel that God revealed to me was that I was forgiven. Now, I refer to this spiritual presence as God, but I can't discount the possibility that it might be someone or something else. I'm sure that many would argue that what I perceive to be God is really just my mind playing tricks on me since my experiences with God are closely tied into (and in some ways inseparable from) my psychosis. I was very delusional at the time that I first felt the presence of God, and I now recognize that a lot of the things that I was thinking at that point in time were in fact delusions, but I don't think that my belief of being opened up to this intelligent spiritual presence that I call God is a delusional one. I don't usually try to convince others of this because I know that they're not likely to believe me, and I'm not trying to persuade you as much as I'm just answering your question.
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> > B. Does this God have any scriptures that the people that give service and worship to this God use?
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> I don't know the extent to which the God I have a relationship with influenced the writing of various religious scriptures. I would like to think that the God that I have a relationship with is the same God that people of various world religions worship, but I don't know for sure if that's the case.
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> > C. In those scriptures, if there are any, do they speak to what that God prescribes to people that take mind-altering drugs?
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> I am only familiar with the Bible since I was raised a Roman Catholic Christian, but I have not read enough of it to know what it speaks of concerning what God prescribes to people that take mind-altering drugs.
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> > D. Does this God claim to have created the heavens and the Earth?
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> I have not had God make this claim to me, but He has not revealed anything to the contrary, either.
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> > E. If this God writes in the scriptures, if any, that one can be delivered out of depression and addiction, do you know how that can be done?
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> I don't know how that can be done. It might be possible for deliverance out of depression and/or addiction through divine means to occur, but I do not know of it happening, nor do I know what one would need to do to make it happen.
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> Well, that sums up my responses. Some of them may sound delusional to a lot of those who are going to read them, but they represent my honest take on what I've experienced.
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> Tomatheus
You wroye,[..I don't know...has a forgiving nature..].
I am unsure as to what that could mean to you. If you could post here answers to the following, then I could havethe opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. Are there any conditions that you know of that this God has for you to do to be forgiven?
B. If so, what are they?
C. If there are no conditions to be forgiven, then could not one do anything and not need forgiveness? If not, why not?
D. What could happen to people that are not forgiven by this God,if you know?
Lou
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