Posted by Lou Pilder on January 30, 2008, at 16:04:14
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Dena-nwhrt » Lou Pilder, posted by Dena on January 30, 2008, at 13:07:54
> I'm thinking that I was born already "fallen", and thus was in a state in which I made choices out of that fallenness...
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> I believe that God knew this about me, and loved me enough to want to rescue me from that condition...
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> I believe that He orchestrated circumstances in my life so that I came to the "end of myself", finally saw that my own efforts couldn't help me to change, and then I saw that He was offering a way of escape for me... and so I chose His offer, and then He came to make me His temple, and is now in my "Holy of Holies" (my heart). Thus my heart is good.
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> The problem is that my mind is enslaved to the lies that I've long-believed ... and it takes a mind-renewal (replacing one lie with Truth, over time, over a lifetime), in order for me to move more and more into living in the freedom that Truth brings me.
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> In one sense, I am already a new person, in another sense I am becoming ever-more a new person, and in another sense, I will one day become a finished new person, when I pass through the veil of this life.
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> Yes, I agree, I am cooperating with the process in which old things have been/are/will be passing away, and all things have been/are/will be made new.
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> My limited human brain struggles with understanding the "timing" of it, because my current existance is bound by time... however, I see that God exists and functions outside of time, and so is not limited as I am.
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> Lou -- I hope this didn't distract you from what you were revealing, but perhaps added to what you're saying.
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> I do strongly agree that when I allow anything to replace my first love (& I believe this is a daily challenge), then I have replaced Him with an idol (for me, this idol can be my own will, my own preferences, and even the "things of God" rather than God Himself... I can replace God with "serving God", or doing good works to "earn relationship" with Him, rather than participating in relationship with Him that He's already given me to enjoy).
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> Ok, back to you, Lou! What's next?
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> Shalom, DenaDena,
You wrote,[...a way to escape...mind is enslaved...renewing of the mind...the process...God exists outside of time...not distract but added...replaced..with an idol...]
Your reply did add to the discussion in a great way. You brought up what the book called the Revelation writes about in symbols.
The symbols of the book reveal the mind of God in relation to His plan for all humanity and what we are purposed for. You wrote about that God does not exist in time. It has been revealed to me that the book called Revelation is also about that time is {now}, {before now} and {after now}.
You did not divert from the meaning of the symbolism of the book, but made it more clear. The beast that came out of the sea has a name that we are comming to. It does have to do with the mind of man and the mind of God. It has been revealed to me that there are two minds that we can entertain. And you wrote that you were enslaved to {lies} and that renewing your mind was replacing things that you had a long-time standing of acceptance to. But how does one ever overcome what they have accepted for many years?
While I was on that Sand, a Rider on a White Horse was behind me. When I saw the Beast come out of the Sea, there was the discussion concerning the fallen house and that the Rider said to me, "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." I asked Him what was to repented of. He turned and said to me, "Lou, the Lord preserves them that love Him; Love is the fulfilling of the law; Out of faith, hope and love, the greatest of those is love. Be not conformed to the world, for one can know what love is. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down his life for his friends."
Lou
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