Posted by rayww on February 10, 2003, at 10:44:52
In reply to Re: hello faith » rayww, posted by Lou Pilder on February 10, 2003, at 8:01:09
> rayww,
> you wrote,[...do you know anyone that came to America...who wasn't directed there by providence?...].
> Well, there were those that came to America out of greed for riches and plunderd and murdered the original inhabitants and commited genocide.
> http://isis.csuhayward.edu/ALSS//soc/NAN/dd/6800sj/slj.htm
> If you are saying that the above and the Africans that were brought to America as slaves came by [providence], then could you clarify the definition of "providence"?
> Lou
>
I appreciated the link. I found it of personal interest to read that "The Indian Removal Act began in 1830" the same year the Book of Mormon was published and that church organized.It is difficult to explain providence when such destruction and slavery is the result of it. God moves in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform. If you think of death as the end-all, you may miss the mark. God does not view death as the end, rather a passing from one orchestrated scene to another.
The reformation was born of blood, sweat, and tears, but it set the stage and prepared the soil for the planting of seeds of faith and freedom. (Civil War, etc) http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=D%26C+101%3A79-80&search.x=17&search.y=11
On Columbus:
http://scriptures.lds.org/1_ne/13/12#12My previous post's reference explains why genocides happen, or why God allows them to happen. I am grounded and strengthened in the fact that my ancestors lived through the LDS extermination order. When I was in Israel I visited the Hollocaust memorial and was taught by our guide that as horrible as it was, it was actually a catalyst, in effecting the return and the gathering.
Providence may be seen in the "hard work" of the reformations and restorations. The teaching of some religions that "if you die for a good cause you are saved" kind of holds true, based on God's definition of good cause.
Lou, I didn't intend to answer your questions. I was only going to say "huh? did I write that?" but I've enjoyed reading and thinking about this today. I feel better in a day after I have spent a few minutes reading scriptures. Do you?
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