Posted by rayww on January 13, 2003, at 20:51:19
In reply to Re: Phil?, posted by Phil on January 13, 2003, at 12:15:29
> You would betray someone because pride is in there somewhere.
> Why would betrayal be worse than murder?The scriptures explain this far better than I can.
Are you asking my opinion or my belief:) Are you being serious or wanting to mock:) Are you asking a question that will receive such a mormon answer it will get me banned (or shunned:)
Some people say that murder is an unforgivable sin, but is that what the scriptures say?
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=unpardonable+sin&search.x=25&search.y=8Most religions cut a straight line between Heaven and Hell, but the scriptures refer to many degrees of glory, not just a heaven and a hell. They go deeper than hell into perdition, and higher than heaven to Celestial glory.
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=celestial+terrestrial+telestial&search.x=31&search.y=4
There will be a place for everyone and everyone will be in their place. Endless punishment is God's punishment.
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=endless+punishment&search.x=27&search.y=11There is a law irrevocably decreed in Heaven before the foundations of the earth.
How many laws do you know of that have been irrevocably decreed?
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=irrevocably+decreed
Only one. Apply this law to all forms of murder including suicide.So, the big one remains: Is murder and suicide a forgivable sin? Because it involves the taking or creating of life, man does not have the power to make that judgement. It will be a heavenly call. What is my answer? Well, look at it this way. If heaven was a continuation of earth, and the set up of family was like the setup of government in heaven, and when you die you just kept living, and you suicide to escape yourself, what would be your very first thought after it was over? Perhaps a stark realization like, "Oh oh, I wish I hadn't done that." I hate to break it to you, but this physical body is the best place to be. This earth, created for the enjoyment of man, is the best place to live. It's not going to leave, it will continue and gain its own Celestial glory.
When you die, you don't leave the earth, you just change spheres and enter into the spiritual one. There is no escape from yourself. You have always been you for a good purpose, and will continue to be you. Make the best you that you can while you have the tools to do it. The time is short, and
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=%22prepare+to+meet+God%22&search.x=28&search.y=6but http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=%22weakest+of+all%22&search.x=29&search.y=6
so http://scriptures.lds.org/bds/saint or "the saints are all those who by baptism have entered into the Christian covenant" There, is my answer.
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