Posted by Tomatheus on August 16, 2013, at 12:12:44
In reply to Re: Tomatheus: Any recreational value?, posted by Lamdage22 on August 16, 2013, at 4:41:33
Well, from my perspective, I think that there are always going to be people saying that a response to a certain treatment is (or might be) due to the placebo effect, and I guess I can't say that there isn't any chance that they could be right. However, again, from my perspective, I don't see the placebo effect as being a likely cause of the responses that I've had to various treatments. I wouldn't keep trying medications and supplements if I didn't think that there was some chance that they might work indefinitely, but inevitably, those that helped me in the short run went on to be completely ineffective in the long run. So, basically what I'm saying is that I wouldn't have tried sublingual oxytocin and other supplements if my expectation was that it would just work for a few days and then become ineffective, yet my responses to sublingual oxytocin and other supplements ended up following just that pattern: one of there being a response for a little while, followed by nothing. In other words, my expectations aren't consistent with the treatment outcomes, and it's expectations that drive the placebo effect. I think that if what I've experienced were due to the placebo effect that the response that I had would have been more in line with my expectations.
But to answer your question, can I rule the placebo effect out with 100 percent certainty? I guess I can't -- not with 100 percent certainty. Though I'm doubtful that what I experienced was due to the placebo effect, I have to leave some room for the possibility of anything happening.
T.
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* chronic fatigue, hypersomnia, and related symptoms
* schizoaffective disorderTaking Abilify, niacin, vit D
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