Posted by cb776 on June 23, 2010, at 3:38:05
In reply to Re: help; Post longterm treatment w/ Venlafaxine L-tyr » cb776, posted by 49er on June 21, 2010, at 10:56:17
> > Been treated with venlafaxine for several years. I am going off this slowly because I get paradoxical depression and apathy.
> >
> > I read that longterm SSRI (cymb, EFxr) down-regulates dopamine-receptors possibly causing this.
> >
> > Would L-tyrosine be able to restore dopamine that VEN lowers.
> >
> > Or maybe any better alternative?
> >
> > I am thinking 5-HTP at night with L-tyrosine in the morning?
> >
> > Any suggestion would be very appreciated.
> >
> > /chris
>
> Hi Chris,
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> Having just finished a successful taper of a 4 med psych cocktail, I would advise you to proceed very carefully with supplements.
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> I tried many of them during my taper and I feel in the end, that most of them caused more harm than helped. The one major exception was spirulina which helped me cold turkey Wellbutrin XL. But generally, because your system is very delicate during withdrawal, they are going to cause more harm than be helpful.
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> The issue is time, not restoring various chemicals. Your brain needs time to adjust to having less Effexor in your body. Adding supplements simply causes confusion to your brain.
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> Personally, I would not use another med to taper off of Effexor unless your intention is to stay on meds. You will simply be trading one poison for another.
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> By the way, when I read similar type advice while tapering, my attitude was people were too entrenched in their views and they didn't know what they were talking about. I now realize they actually did.
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> And when you say you are tapering slowly, are you doing 10% of current dose every 3 to 6 weeks? With Effexor, you might need to go more slowly.
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> For those of you who claim this will take forever, well, after getting off of psych meds last week, I am doing great in spite of being on meds for 15 years. I am even sleeping without taking anything 2 out of 3 days. I credit that to a slow taper.
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> I hope this helps.
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> 49er
>
> PS - Another exception is fish oil. I definitely recommend that.Thanks for reply. Iam gonna take that advice and dont start wtih any suppl. during venlafaxine-taper.
I jumped fron 375 mg to 150 mg in one day which wasnt clever and it gave me headzapps for 10 days.
But no increase anxiety/depression.Now i taper opening capsule and releasing 10 corns. Feels much better ans safer.
Maybe my anxiety-level gonna rise when i am off venlafaxine completely so i am thinking 5-htp in for sleep.
Is spirulina activating?
/chris
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