Posted by bleauberry on July 15, 2009, at 20:40:01
In reply to Attn: Larry Hoover or other biochemists, posted by FourFeathers on July 13, 2009, at 12:34:00
Hey, I know I gave you a lot to swallow all at once and I apoligize. I been there done that and just want to save other people the money, wasted time, and frustration. There are many bases to cover and stones to turn.
Simple it really boils down to this:
1. The specific food choices I mentioned will be the best therapy you will find for longterm success. It is hard to start, kind of like breaking an addiction, but rewarding several months later. I forgot to mention also, the fats of butter, cream, nuts, and avocados are very good fats...eat all you want of those.
2. St Johns Wort does possess good dysthymia busting power, given the right brand and right dose. Kira, Perika, Whole Foods Market brand, WalMart brand...all worth trying...all have worked marvelously for people, but only one in particular for each person did it while the others didn't. One thing about SJW though...it lowers cortisol. So if you do the cortisol test and you do have hypoadrenalism, SJW might not be a good choice. Common vitamins and minerals definitely won't help much but maybe one or another might help a little. Lots of trial and error there.
3. I know you are seeking the natural route. That said, there is nothing wrong with small doses of pharmaceutical meds. Either Nortriptyline or Desipramine in low doses will fit the bill of what you are looking for. They can get you feeling better rather fast, within a month, while you continue to your new food journey, diagnosing hidden infections, testing adrenals, etc. Those drugs will also normalize your hormone problems as well as the dysthymia. If one is not completely helpful, the other likely will be. Desip is stronger on norepinephrine than Nort. Early side effects are sleepiness, disappearance of pains, dry-ish mouth, mild constipation. Most of these are gone in a month, except for the pain relief, which is a welcome longterm side effect. Low doses. No need for the heavy hitting stuff.
Also forgot to mention part of your daily routine should be a high quality refrigerated probiotic supplement. Longterm benefits for mood, immune system, infections, and vitamin synthesis.
Going natural means attacking all health issues, known and unknown, as well as preventative measures, all simultaneously continuously. A low dose well chosen pharmaceutical can be a huge help. Avoid the SSRIs though. They will worsen every problem you want to fix.
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