Posted by bleauberry on February 5, 2008, at 18:51:02 [reposted on February 7, 2008, at 22:41:36 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Effexor XR » bleauberry, posted by clipper40 on February 5, 2008, at 3:01:32
> Thanks for all of the info. I will check out the forums etc. My holistic doctor is quite knowledgeable but she doesn't really give a d*mn about her patients so I take what info she has to offer but the motivation has to come from me.
Excellent. I think all people should be like that, no matter who the doctor is. We alone are responsible for our own lives.
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> Can I ask you about how much money I should expect to spend? That's been the big deterrent up to this point as I've wanted to have them removed for a while now. I'm afraid it's going to cost about $10k and I just don't have that.$10K?? Not even. My total cost with amalgam removals, supplements, and chelation meds has been about $1,500.
Insurance likely will not cover it. I paid cash or credit for everything. There is actually a place you can get an interest free loan. I wish I had the info. It is on google somewhere if you do a search on free loans for amalgam removal.
Here's what costs can roughly be expected, based on what I personally paid:
Each filling $300 (I had 4 huge ones)
The preliminary visit (insurance did cover this, but I think the cost was about $100)
Try to get them all out in one visit. That will keep costs down. I had to suggest it, ask for it, and push for it. Usually they like to do one quadrant at a time. Just get it done and over with.If any of the fillings are in bad teeth, rotten teeth, or rear molars or wisdom teeth, just have the whole tooth pulled. That is about $75. I had that done with one of my rear molars that had a huge amalgam in it, partly because the tooth was not in great shape, partly to save money, and partly to completely avoid mercury exposure in that case.
After the fillings are out:
DMSA 25mg from Vitamin Research Products (I forgot, I want to say about $30 for a bottle). Since you will be dividing capsule contents into halves or quarters, the bottle will last several months.
Basic supplements people take, depending on what you can tolerate: (all of these are 3 to 4 times per day doses)
Vitamin C buffered, all you handle.
Vitamin E 1000IU per day total.
Zinc 25mg-50mg day.
Selenium 200mcg-400mcg day.
B complex.
Magnesium.
Minerals taken separately or in a multivitamin.
COQ10 is recommended, but I notice not that many people actually take it.
Avoid copper from common vitamins or drinking water from copper pipes. Most mercury exposed people already have too much copper. Selenium, molybdenum, avoidance, and time will bring copper levels down.There are tons of other supplements. The above are the foundation. One of the worst of the many bad things mercury does is cause a massive amount of oxidative damage, which is why high doses of antioxidants are used.
I am very sensitive. I can not tolerate high doses of B vitamins and magnesium feels like poison to me, though practically everyone else loves it. The other ones listed I am fine with.
Other than that I also take digestive enzymes which is about $40 a month. Probiotics about $30 a month. I have many gut issues. Mercury did a number on my intestines.After a few months of DMSA only you will then add alpha lipoic acid from Kirkmans. They make a 25mg capsule. You will take in the neighborhood of 3mg to 15mg per dose. Most people tolerate that. Any more too early stirs up too much mercury too fast.
Here's the chronology:
Begin supplements now.
Get fillings out.
Begin 12.5mg DMSA every 4 hours (including at night) for 3 days, then stop for 4 days. Keep repeating. If you feel good on it, you can go longer. If you feel you need more time between rounds, that is fine. DMSA removes extracellular mercury and lead.
After a couple or three months you will then add ALA. Then your dosing will switch to every 3 hours around the clock during rounds. ALA removes intracellular mercury and arsenic from inside tissues, glands, and the brain. Some people detox with ALA only, but most people find they feel better with DMSA in the mix. Do not use ALA alone after filling removal for at least 3 months. It not only takes mercury out of the brain, but will also allow it to cross into the brain...thus the need to reduce the body burden with DMSA first so that all that body mercury doesn't go to the brain. Once the body burden is low, then the flow with ALA will be from the brain to the body, not vica versa.Amalgam removal and chelation really is not costly at all considering the alternative. Not doing anything is a pretty sure bet on an accelerated death process with one new illness after another keep popping up and piling up. Now that costs a lot.
Most people who do chelation after amalgam removal experience significant improvement in all of the myriads of symptoms, and many experience complete cures. Depending on how much metals are moving on each round, each round will feel different. I've had a few that were characterized by fatigue, glumness, depressed mood. I've had a couple that were like I was reborn and felt like I did 30 years ago. I know for sure my body and brain are capable of feeling completely healthy, because I have had glimpses of it. Just gotta keep chelating. The author says chelate, chelate, chelate some more. Some of those metals are deeply imbedded. Some people see great results in a few rounds, while others don't notice much until after a year or two. With the low dose frequent dose protocol, I would say 95% of people see major improvements and 0% get worse. With all other protocols, maybe 20% of people improve while 80% get much worse.
The best drug I have ever taken for my depression was...DMSA. I felt so awesome when mercury was lifted from somewhere. There is still a lot left though. Gotta keep at it.
I know I suggested the Yahoo forum frequent-dose-chelation. Another good one is adult-metal-chelation. They had a string of posts recently on the horror stories of wrong protocols.
You are on a good path. Find the money to those amalgams out. It should be in the neighborhood of $300 each. Find a dentist who uses the special safety procedures, not just any run of the mill dentist. Even that though would be better than not doing anything.
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