Posted by liliths on December 9, 2006, at 7:06:25 [reposted on December 10, 2006, at 23:43:14 | original URL]
In reply to Re: non-opiate replacement for hydrococone? TO ALL » liliths, posted by Quintal on December 8, 2006, at 21:17:23
Hi Q
you say you've tried Kratom? What was it like? have you continued to use it and if not, why?
I suspect it may be quite expensive
I'l also be curious to know more about the oxycotin spray... are you trying to obtain it? How long has your friend been using it?
any info would be appreciated :)
thanks again
namaste,
lilith> This got me thinking about Kratom. I assumed it would produce positive results ona drugs test, but apparently not:
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> 'One example is kratom, a substitute for the prescription pain killer OxyContin, a popular drug with addicts seeking a high. Kratom's leaves can be smoked or put in a tea ball and brewed, and the resultant concoction drunk.
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> Kratom looks like marijuana and smells like sweet tea, but it produces the same effects as OxyContin: an opium-like high. “You can be actively high and still pass a drug test,” Talbot says. Talbot says that most police officers aren’t aware of it, and, in fact, none of the other experts interviewed for this story had heard of kratom or various other substitute drugs.'
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> http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/001830_2.html
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> There's more info on Kratom here: http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
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> Basically it's a legal (for the moment) herb that produces effects similar to opiates and cocaine - the classic 'speedball'. I've tried it myself and it is very nice ;-).
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> It may be hard to find in the US, though there are sources - mostly online head shops: http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kratom.
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> Q
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