Posted by Quintal on November 18, 2006, at 11:24:29
In reply to Re: Ayahuasca, posted by Declan on November 18, 2006, at 2:30:14
> Many years ago I took both harmine and ibogaine. Harmine was a straight psychedelic, but nice.
> Ibogaine was a bit witchy or something (things flying about in peripheral vision).
> I have heard remarkable reports of recovery from addiction with iboga which I find difficult to credit but do not disbelieve either.
> Going to Peru sounds like an excellent idea.I think Ibogaine needs to be taken in an environment geared towards helping opiate withdrawal to reap the full benefits. I worked with a guy who claimed to have taken Ibogaine in the early nineties and described the effects as being 'like speed'..... I've heard some reports of people using Ayahuasca recreationally for kicks and they just enjoy the psychedelic fireworks and seem to take no insight away from the experience.
It seems to me that you get out what you put with these drugs. They're like mirrors that you can use to see your mind and all your neuroses clearly and accurately if you wish so, and know how to use them properly for this purpose (hence the experinced shaman). That's partly what I'm hoping to do here by researching experiences of people with psychiatric problems who have used them and getting an idea in my mind of what can be expected from the ceremony, and also what I need to do to get what I would like to gain from it.
Did you have a special ritual for your Ibogaine trip Declan? How much harmine did you use and what was the source plant?
Q
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