Posted by willyee on September 21, 2006, at 14:15:27 [reposted on September 21, 2006, at 21:52:24 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Sam-E and B-12, posted by clint878 on September 20, 2006, at 18:24:54
> You say that you found out the "hard way." What is the "hard way," if you don't mind me asking? Did you hsve a similar reaction to a different substance?
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> As to me, perhaps I spoke too soon. There was dramatic improvement overnight and I can think more clearly now and my memory has improved. I can even start to feel the keys I'm using to type. Maybe there's hope yet; but even if I completely recover, I'm still going to spread the word about Sam-E.
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> > > While I realize that you weren't referring to me in your post, I thought I should say that the reason I asked here was because I was, apparently, B12-deficient before I started taking the Sam-E. That's why I was depressed in the first place. Apparently, the Sam-E exacerbated the deficiency, throwing me into a confused and disoriented state.
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> > > Even though I continued the multivitamin that had 50mcg of B-12 in it, I have an absorbtion problem that didn't let me get enough B-12 from the multivitamin in the first place, let alone with the Sam-E.
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> > > I've never heard of anyone before having a reaction like this, which is why I asked. Perhaps taking huge doses of B-12 prior to the Sam-E would have prevented this catastrophe. Though I started supplementation when a doctor finally realized the problem five weeks later, it was too late. As it is, unfortunately, my usefulness is probably over; it's unlikely I'll ever regain my intelligence, nor the feeling in my arms and legs.
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> > > Even if I can't think clearly enough to do anything of much value at work, I can at least write letters to the FDA and spread this story across the Internet to warn people against taking Sam-E.
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> > > -Brant
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> > Wow sorry to hear that,personaly i never liked it one bit,but would never have thought it capable of doing such damage.
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> > Not knowing ur situation i still say people think too often that natural means safe,amino loading for example,not safe,you need to know ur stuff before u go chomping down aminos,i learned most this the hard way and treat almost anything that crosses into the brain with serious regard.
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>No of course not,anything i type is out there to inquire.I spent a little of a year off script drugs,and got deep into nutrients and herbs.
I read a few books,as well as particpated in sme groups.
I took a stab at most stuff recomended on this route such as aminos,excuse my spelling ....l-phenyalainine,l-tyrosine, and the like.
As well as various herbs,kava kava,gotu kola,etc.
Inositol,l trypothan,i just touched on a lot.samE being one,and well there are precations to take with thse as well,when you raise specfic aminos in AMINO LOADING you imbalance other aminos and nutrients,so cycling is required.As well as the fact that mega dosing thse nutrients isnt NATURAL either.
I simply learned that unless you know what you are doing,stockpiling your brain with over the counter nutrients and herbs can make you feel just as crumpy as prescription drugs.With regards to samE specific,i learned that simply taking it as i wanted because it was a nutrient and natural led to me being in a super maniac phase,extreme anxiety and depression.
After a year or so i found i had moved further back on natural alternatives than on presription drugs,and also i was quite broke.
At least now i have insurance.
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