Posted by tealady on November 17, 2004, at 16:40:03
In reply to Re: Tyrosine questions, posted by sabre on November 7, 2004, at 22:47:10
> It was brilliant today!!!
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> Took the tyrosine early... around 6am. Went out for about 10k and felt quite good. But here's where it really helped.
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> I usually get dropped off at work but today I had to drive. I would usually opt for a beta blocker to do that as driving is one of my panic inducers. I kept waiting for the panic attack. It was like waiting for the axe to fall but it didn't!
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> We have morning tea in our staff room and that is usually a problem...shaking, spilling cup...close up encounters..questions about weekend etc. I felt pretty good. Sweaty and apprehensive and again kept waiting for the panic to explode but it didn't. I work on my feet all day and took my pulse around 10am and it was close to 60. I would expect it to be higher with stress and activity.
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> I carried the beta blocker around in my pocket like a security blanket but I didn't use it. I could feel the effects starting to abate by about 11am and by lunch it was more of a chore with the shaky hand and nervousness definitely building but I rode it out.
> I can't say it killed the social anxiety but it definitely eased the panic. I think if the panic is under control it can help to build confidence and security in your mind so you can have a base to work off to overcome the social anxiety.
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> I have been looking for something to replace the beta blocker as it was giving me dry sore eyes and was making me feel tired and brain dead. I have high hopes for this stuff now.
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> I'm going to test out its effect tomorrow by taking it in the morning and doing an anaerobic interval session tomorrow evening.
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> This is the fourth day and it is still having an effect. Other drugs like Moclobemide and Lexapro had a positive effect for two days and then it was as though my brain fought back in the other direction to regain control.
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> I have v high sensitivity to every other drug I used so I'm wondering whether the milder effects of the alternative drugs might be suitable for others with similar sensitivities? I had the staggers and drawling speech with the lowest therapeutic dosage of Paxil. Moclobemide gave me ectopic heart beats while Lexapro caused depression, apathy and fatigue at the lowest therapeutic dose.
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> One quarter the therapeutic dosage of the prescription drugs seemed about right (also for Serzone).
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> Does improving your fitness increase your sensitivity to drugs? If so, it might be a useful consideration for those who do not respond very much to their drugs.
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> Larry, does Tyrosine cause an increase or decrease in NA? I thought it might increase dopamine which in turn would help to increase NA.
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> I posted this link in Babble which I thought was amazing:
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> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11064960%255E23289,00.html
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> I would love to know how you could find out about your NA/dop/sero genetic failings. It might save people a fair amount of experimentation with psych drugs.
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> Thanks for your suggestions. I'll take some simple carbs after training tomorrow.
> I'll keep you posted.
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> sabre
>Tyrosine should cause an increase in noradrenaline..which is usually the reason most have to stop it, although a few( its more the exception than the rule)some have taken it for years.
I didn't want to say anything that might possibly influence the outcome of your trial, especially as it was going great.
Some hypothyroid parents with ADD kids have their kids going well on tyrosine for a couple of years now I think.(instead of ADD meds like ritalin).
On the hyperthyroid forum, I think I read (memory poor so may be wrong) that they did an unofficial survey and found a lot of them had suffered anorexia when younger,
In hyperthyroidism your metabolism is speeded up..so it would, in theory, be easier to lose weight and become anorexic if you had a faster metabolism (ask any hypothryoid person how much they eat and whether they lose weight :)If there is a link..then norardenaline too would be depleted faster than a normal person's ...EVERYTHING should be I would think.
So one way of getting one's noradrenaline down quickly (if it is too high for comfort and causing anxiety) for those type of people would have to be to stop eating..and it ALWAYS feel better if you can decrease anxiety when levels are high. Anxiety is the worst..Tyrosine should be expected here to increase anxiety levels...poor kids (IMO).
Wonder if they show any antibodies?
Jan
PS I think the anxiety levels had something to do with why I stopped the tyrosine after a while.. but then I think I was trying SJW and niacinamide and niacin at that time too..and suspected they all seemed to increase anxiety :)
Jan
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