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Re: immune system/ depression » Larry Hoover

Posted by Emme on August 24, 2004, at 7:26:48

In reply to Re: immune system/ depression » Emme, posted by Larry Hoover on August 22, 2004, at 10:12:59

> > 'Lo again.
>
> G'day, eh? That's Canadian.

Well, I did spend a couple of months in Ontario once. :)

> > > Bipolarish? Interesting "outside the DSM" conceptualization, going on here:
> >
> > Yes, I found that site helpful after my pdoc looked at me and said "...I think you're bipolar." The descriptions on that site describe a lot of me. Repeated AD poopouts. Sometimes my depression is sluggish/can't move, sometimes very anxious. Major sleep disturbances. Sometimes my nerves were utterly raw/bristly. My thoughts don't race sequentially in the way doctors ask. I've had times where a number of negative thoughts were swishing around in my head simultaneously competing with each other so that my mind felt chaotic rather than "fast" per se. One 4 -day definite hypomanic episode . I think a fair assessment would be mostly major depression with some bipolarity.
>
> I think the whole construct of mood disorders could do with a little less construct.

Agreed. I like the broad inclusiveness of the "bipolar spectrum" concept for that reason. Less "cubbyholing" (or at least looser cubbyholing) and more inclusion of a broad range of individual symptoms.

>> Fact is, I generally don't like fish. Most of it tastes *bad* to me.
>
> Maybe you're not getting fresh fish? Really fresh fish doesn't smell fishy, period. And there are some really mild white fish to consider (colour does correlate to flavour). Sauces and herbs/spices might help, too.

I grew up on the coast where fresh fish was available. You'd think I'd like it. My mom's especially fond of the mild white fishes. I tolerated them as a kid b/c they were put in front of me, and were heavily breaded, seasoned, buttered, lemoned. The only things I've really liked are shrimp, swordfish and shark..

> > But I understand flax seed is a less efficient way to get omega-3.
>
> Yes, it is (less efficient). Do you do eggs? Eggs can be a substantial source of long-chain omega-3s, if the eggs are free range, or they have flaxseed-supplemented chow (you get the benefit of the chicken's pre-processing of the alpha-linolenic acid, and the tendency to concentrate EPA and DHA in the yolk).

Yeah. I've started to see (and buy) the omega-3 rich eggs. I could probably go ahead and eat more of them instead of forgetting they're in my fridge until I bake. :)

> Unless you use the algae-based DHA supplement called Neuromins, I don't know a really effective way around the fish bit. I also have some reservations about the completeness of Neuromins, as it has no appreciable amounts of EPA.

Hm. I haven't heard of that.

> > > > > You might want to consider ginkgo biloba.
> > > > I can try that. Are there any side effects or medication interactions to worry about? Will it make me very smart? :)
> > >
> > > It will make you smart, like me.
> Getting cheeky, is all.

You're allowed.

> 100-200 mg per day, at 24% ginkolides.

Great. Thanks.

Emme

 

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