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Re: Caffeine elimination for depression??? » Viridis

Posted by Franz on December 21, 2003, at 12:56:15

In reply to Re: Caffeine elimination for depression???, posted by Viridis on December 21, 2003, at 3:57:19

> Large amounts of caffeine definitely aren't good for me -- they make me anxious, which in turn leads to insomnia and depression. I tolerate tea well,

Sometimes tea is hard on my stomach. Have you got that problem too?.

I do not know what it is.

Once I read caffeine is released the first when making tea, and then after a while, the tanins.

Could it be the tanins?.

I wonder when l-theanine is released so we can control brewing time to get the most of it.


>though, probably due to the relaxant effects of the L-theanine it contains. Green and black ("regular") tea both seem to have these benefits (I prefer black [= fermented] tea to green).

you could try Oolong tea which is in the middle, or mixing both black and green. There was a study showing good effects.

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> Interestingly, other stimulants such as Adderall and Provigil actually relax me, but I have a hard time with much caffeine.


Yes, stimulants are sometimes anti-anxiety, especially social anxiety.

There was a tread here, java vs kava. I am sure a good level of arousal helps with dealing with tasks or problems that can provoke anxiety otherwise.

On the other side, sometimes we think we need a stimulant for energy and what works is an anti anxiety med like a benzo. The other day I took bromazepam and started cleaning and putting order, which I was postponing for days.

The chinese speak of energy as balances and I think they are right.


I am trying tyrosine now expecting some boost.

I still do not know what to do with the klonopin which tends to sedate me.


I tried bromazepam and I think it is good, but it surprises me thaat I seldom here from it here.

 

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