Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2014, at 18:33:40
In reply to Re: Lou's reply- eyetinklushdbee » Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on October 3, 2013, at 1:59:27
> Lou, I've been lurking around for the past 3-4 months. I will surf through here about every 3 weeks.
> I would like to express my feelings about your position here and your "issues".
> Lou, I've never seen anyone write a post that would be against your heritage and religion.
> I came here in 2002. In that length of time, I've never seen you post one supportive post to anyone here. Perhaps I've missed it but I don't think so.
> You and I emailed for a long time about 5 years ago. I was pleased to read your emails as you wrote in a normal manner and never mentioned your feelings of not being accepted here.I even tried to get you to support others and you were quite rational and appropriate in your emails.
> I'd like to give you some advice and hopefully some insight in what you are doing now and doing it well. I want you to stop beating a dead horse about being discriminated against. Lou, I'm just enough Choctaw indian that I am occasionally discriminated against. I am subjected to it especially if I am with other indians who are darker than I am. White people always want to know what I'm doing travelling with "injuns". I don't take it personally. I don't beleive that you are truly as invested in the 'discrimination' against you as you put in your posts. I believe that it keeps you front and center and you like that very, very much.
> Lou, the site needs you as a positive influence. I believe that you could be an very effective leader if you could see a way to stop posting about being jewish and take the time to offer support to other posters. Posters certainly have written some very nice and caring messages to you. I hope you can see a way to do a complete turnaround and be a help to the site so it can continue to go on and perhaps attract new posters.
> I have one more issue that I do want to address. Lou, I don't believe it is fair to the posters here for you to rail against the meds that people need and take. NO ONE criticizes anyone else's choice of meds and I would like to see you completely quit it. I don't think that it makes you look like an expert. I think it has other effects upon posters and especially new posters.
> I hope you can find it in your heart to change your approach to the regular posters. Some are quite nice to you and certainly others show a tolerance that not a lot of people could do. I hope you are thankful for those posters.
> There are lots of people in pain in this world and I believe that you could revitalize the site and I think you could completely turn things around by being invested in others and offering an helping hand. Sincerely, Fayeroe (Pat)fayeroe,
You wrote,[...never seen..a post.. against your heritage and religion...].
To identify what a post is that has a statement that is against the Jewish heritage and religion, we could use several methods to make that determination. Mr. Hsiung uses ,[...do not post anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused..] as one way of determining if a statement is not in accordance with his rules. He then states that anything that could put down another's faith is also against is rules.
Now if something written here insults another's faith, then that could be {against} that faith and against the {heritage} of those that belong to that faith. The religion of Judaism describes how the followers of the God that they give service and worship to could lead them to heaven. The idea of {heaven} could be depicted in literary manners that may be different from the religions of others, but the concept can include being resurrected from the dead as in the scriptures that the Jews use.
Now for a post here to be allowed to stand un repudiated (directly) that states as a subset of readers could think that Jews can not enter heaven, insults the heritage and religion of Judaism, for the statement is false and could arouse anti-Semitic feelings. The tragic consequences that could happen here to a subset of readers that see that post as not being directly sanctioned by Mr. Hsiung or his deputies could lead a subset of readers to feel humiliation and scorn and ridicule and commit suicide because they could know that Mr. Hsiung states that posts that are not sanctioned have in them statements that are not against his rules.
Now what is in question here that I would like for you to post from your perspective, is the last posts in this thread concerning a post. The post has an insult to Judaism and the other faiths that are not Christian that have in their agenda that they can enter heaven as not being a Christian and Mr Hsiung states that he sanctioned the post (indirectly}. His rationale is that there is a post by the poster many days after the post in question where Mr. Hsiung sanctioned the post for having a vulgar word in it and so indirectly sanctions the post that has the insult to Judaism and Islam and the other faiths that can be seen. I was wondering what your thought could be on this?
Lou
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