Posted by Dr. Bob on March 11, 2014, at 14:11:17
In reply to Re: A no-trolling area in a trollish society » Ronnjee, posted by doxogenic boy on March 5, 2014, at 15:19:55
> Will there be a special sign-up procedure for entrance into a refuge forum?
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> - ScottI was thinking it could be entered just like any other board. The introduction would explain how it was different.
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> > I'm thinking about "blinders", a feature that would keep posters from even seeing the posts of other posters, also to help them feel safe.
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> I support this idea. But one can see what the unwanted poster says, if other users quote him/her, unless it also is possible to blind replies to the unwanted poster. Maybe it can be a choice whether to blind just the unwanted poster or to blind replies to the poster too?Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. If X is blind to Y, should X also be blind to replies to Y, replies to those replies, etc.?
1. Y could be quoted in a post that's a reply to Z.
2. My inclination is to err on the side of being less blind than more.
> > My view is that it's OK to educate people about trolls in general, but uncivil to accuse particular posters of being trolls.
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> Thank you for this clarification. But can you see the arguments for warning other posters againts malicious trolls, to protect their mental health and that those who warn about this can have good intentions?Yes, I see those arguments. Can you see the arguments against accusing particular posters of being trolls?
> then it is very difficult to support trolls without being exploited.
Why do you say that?
> http://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/trolls-just-want-to-have-fun.pdf
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> "Online trolling is the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet with no apparent instrumental purpose."
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> "Also as expected, sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism scores were positively correlated with self-reported enjoyment of trolling, all rs >.37 (see Table 1), even when controlling for overall Internet use, all rs >.39"
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> What do you think about the above-mentioned study, as a mental health professional?1. I wonder about their method of identifying trolls:
> > A second question probed their preferred activity when commenting online: "What do you enjoy doing most on these comment sites?" with five response options: "debating issues that are important to you", "chatting with other users", "making new friends", "trolling other users", and "other (specify)".
2. It makes them sound like bad people.
> I think we can have a safe and quiet place here even though trolls are dominating TV, radio, newspapers, politics and religion. It can be like going for a walk in the woods, to get a break from the noise in the city.
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> A no-trolling area in a trollish society.
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> - doxogenicThat would be the general idea of a Refuge board. But how would you define "troll"? Or operationalize "sadistic", "psychopathic", and "Machiavellian"? I don't think it would work to make everyone fill out a personality measure.
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