Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2013, at 11:15:20
In reply to Re: How a refuge board would work » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 10, 2013, at 18:35:48
> Ok, I can see one situation where it might work. If it were completely separate from Babble.
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> For the most part, anyone could join as part of joining Babble. But if anyone is uncivil to anyone who posts on Civility Babble on Incivility Babble, they lose their citizenship on Civility Babble as well as if they are repeatedly uncivil on Civility Babble. There would be no blocks, no lengths, they would be laterally moved. And they could apply for reinstatement to Civility Babble after proving that they want to be on a site moderated for civility and understand what that entails.
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> I wouldn't want posting privileges in Uncivil Babble. I would treat it like I treat any site that I wouldn't want to be part of.
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> Because it wouldn't work if people on Civil Babble had to politely get along with people who are being highly uncivil towards them on Incivility Babble.
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> Although all sorts of posts could be on Civil Babble (medications, psychology, social) the way it used to be on Babble before the split, there would have to be a separate Admin board even though reporting would be off board for the most part. That Admin board could be erased or at least archived as soon as a topic is resolved. That way the separate-board-operating-as-a-separate-site would be self contained, and posters would be able to post as if Incivility Babble were a separate site
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> Because the reason a Refuge Board won't work as a part of Babble is that just because people are polite there, it doesn't mean they aren't being very impolite about Civility Board posters elsewhere on the site. And I prefer the term Civility Board to Refuge Board, because we wouldn't necessarily have to walk on tippytoes. Just be reasonably respectful of each other.
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> Ooooh, and Moderated Babble wouldn't have Tweet or Facebook buttons. Maybe with greater assurances of privacy, some who were driven away might feel comfortable dropping in.
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> Actually I'm rather excited at the possibilities. Moderated Babble could even have the "Please cut that out" that would always have been desirable for behaviors that were uncivil in intent, but not form. Time outs or cooling off periods would last until the person is willing to abide by site rules, not for any set length of time.Thanks for spelling out what you have in mind. I'm open to trying it. Would you like to moderate it?
What I'm thinking is that usually what's considered acceptable behavior depends on the context. If an 18-year-old lives in a state where the drinking age is 21, but visits a state where it's 18, it's acceptable for them to drink there. And they aren't arrested when they go home. It could be acceptable for them to swear in a bar, but not on their job. And if they swear in a bar, they aren't fired from their job.
Though I suppose people could choose to accept that admission to a new board was contingent on their behavior on other boards. Like elected officials accept that expectations of them extend beyond their behavior in the office.
Bob
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