Posted by Lou Pilder on December 10, 2013, at 20:16:49
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on December 10, 2013, at 18:30:01
> > I suggest that if you are unwilling to state that the statement in question is against your rules to not post what could put down those of other faiths, then could you post your rationale for such here? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
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> I don't think we disagree about the original statement. I think we disagree about my proposed restatement.
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> Yes, it could be read as putting down some reasons. But #5 was just one in a list. Do you consider it uncivil to post that the other 9 are bad reasons, too?
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...I don't think that we disagree about the original statement...]
The statement is insulting per se to Jews, Islamic people, Hindus and all other people that have faiths that have their agenda not centered in Christ.
Now the other 9 reasons are not specific to other people's faiths like #5 is. They are general reasons that could be found in any organized religion, even in religions that are Christiandom religions. So those reasons do not put down Jews or Islamic people and the others for them being Jews and Islamic and such, but for any religion having that agenda, even a Christian religion. But #5 puts down Judaism and Islam and Hinduism and the others because they do not have their agenda centered in Christ, which is an insult to all the people in those religions, and insulting to the religion itself because of the use of the category of being in the worst that readers could think means that those religions that do not have their agenda centered in Christ are bad religions. And that could mean to a subset of readers that the people in those religions could feel put down as seeing that you allow the statement to be seen as supportive and conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community and worse, it will be good for this community as a whole to allow the statement to be seen that way due to it not being sanctioned. And even worse, since you state that one match could start a forest fire and readers could see that you agree with me about the statement, then the fire of hate could be still burning.
Lou Pilder
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