Posted by Lou Pilder on July 3, 2012, at 9:32:55
In reply to Lou's request to Mr. Hsiung for a deletion, posted by Lou Pilder on February 7, 2011, at 5:20:43
> > > Bulldog,
> > >
> > > Only Lou can speak for himself - but I didn't want you to think my post to Lou had anything to do with you, but I wanted to answer his questions..I thought Lou was referring to racist statements made about Jews which he's been bringing to the attention of administration for weeks now?
> > >
> > > I'm not saying anymore about that situation because I don't know the whole story...All I know is that Lou has a situation he feels is unaddressed, but unrelated to your situation?
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > What post is involved on the admin board is the discussion concerning my request to Mr. Hsiung to post on the fiath board as to if or if not he considers the post in question to be supportive or not.
> > The post is as follows per this link at he end here. The post is authored not by the member that uses the handle, (..._empowerd), but by the poster that uses the handle (Buckeye Fan). The post could lead a Jew to feel put down when they read it, along with others that believe that they could have forgivness and Eternal Life by another means in their faith other than accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord ansd Savior and that the statement in question could mean that the Jewish children that do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior that were murderd by anti-Semites are precluded from Eternal Life and forgivness because the statement in question uses the imperative, {only}, which Mr. Hsiung has stated that preclusion is not supportive. But he says that to post the statement in question is {OK}. Now {OK} to post could mean something other than being supportive, or it could mean that it is supportive, so I am asking him to lift the ambiguity that I think exists by stating in the thread as to what he is wanting to mean as a request for clarification from me to him in order for me to respond to him there because I am unsure if he is wanting to mean that the statement, in and of itself, is supportive or not, or is just OK for some other reason.
> > Mr. Hsiung does agree that antisemitic statements are not supportive and that one match could start a forest fire and he has posted here that if something is posted, that support takes precedence, even if one is quoting someone else, even if the bible says it, even if they preface it with something like (I believe) and such. So I am wanting to know if he thinks that the statement is supportive or not for others could think that the antisemitic statement is supportive here and that could cause me as a Jew to be in fear of being a victim of antisemitic violence be it physical or emotional/psychological violence by emotional distress being inflicted on me.
> > You see, when the adminisrtrion drafts their rules, any ambiguity makes the rule to have the potential to be subject to be arbitrary, or caprecious, or discriminatory. And if the adminstration, be it the rule drafter or his assistants that he calls his deputies, is leaving a request unresponded to that asks for clarification of the ambiguity, then that could lead to further, in this case, antisemitic statements and the spread of antisemitic hate here, along with the spread of anti-Islamic hate and hatred toward others that do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal; Lord and Savior which then could lead to members to think that it is good for the community as a whole and that members are asked by the rule drafter here to try to trust him in what he does here.
> > Here is the link to the post on the faith board by Buckeye Fan.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080809/msgs/941769.html
> > Then on the admin board,
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20100321/msgs/950671.html
> >
> >
> Mr. Hsiung,
> I am requesting that the entire thread that contains the post in question here be deleted. I base this on that IMHO any statement that could arouse antisemitic feelings could have the potential to fuel hatred toward Jews by the nature of the statement precluding Jews that do not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior to be precluded from forgivness and eternal life. The statement in question also precludes Islamic people and other non-Christians from forgivness and Eternal Life. That then could have the potential IMHO to playout in the mind of someone taking mind-altering drugs to target a Jew or other non-Christians that do not accept the claim in question, on the basis that they could think from that the statement in the post is {OK} by you here, and your TOS states that you do what will be good for the community as a whole, that since you say that the statement in question is {OK}, that it is also supportive, which I have asked you to declare if you are wanting to mean that or not and my request is outstanding now for a long time.
> Now to allow my requests to you to remain outstanding for this amount of time, while you post here to evict people and redirect postts, could foster IMHO the idea in some that you are indifferent to my request which could IMHO then have the potential to foster antisemitic feelings in this community and to those tthat read here. This then IMHO could make Jews and others that do not accept the claim in question about that those that do not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior will be precluded from forgivness and eternal life, to be in fear of being a victim of antisemitic violence. This then leads me to question as to if your leaving my request outstanding is or is not a sound mental-health practice. Do you understand then why I am requesting that you delete the whole thread?
> Lou PilderMr. Hsiung,
I am changing my request from requesting a deletion to requesting that you post in the thread in question as to what is in question as to if in your thinking it is supportive or not.
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:951873
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1020761.html