Posted by Solstice on November 28, 2010, at 19:18:29
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and deputies, posted by Dr. Bob on November 28, 2010, at 17:50:08
> My guess is members of some kind of Elders Council would be less likely to be seen as my "minions".
I think any member, or group of members, that serves in any capacity of oversight of compliance with civility guidelines risks being seen as one of your 'minions.'
> > SOME discussion, even a litle heated discussion can be VERY useful. But with Bobs rules there is a tendency to keep everything surface and so-called 'safe'. There's no depth really.
> > Heated discussions can be stressful, and hurtful if it goes too far, but they can also be super helpful.
> > Heated discussions in a group of people in which the core group trust each other can be so fruitful, and when the dust settles, and sorrys are said, the bonds are stronger. I want to be able to be 'real', not just surface.
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> > muffled
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> The key is trust. Will there be trust if posters are uncivil to each other and let each other be slapped upside the head?I think 'heated discussions' is not well-defined. If we take what Muff is describing - and require it to remain respectful - maybe it could be called 'vigorous disscussions'? I think Muff makes a good point.. that members having enough latitude to express strongly opposing views can be enriching. But I also think the line can get fuzzy between respectful debate, and disrespect, which is never helpful. It does take a lot of practice to be able to engage in vigorous discussions and not cross the line into disrespect.
I can't help but wonder if this is really about the current threshhold for incivility? Quite frequently, posts that are cited with PBC's, etc. do not register with the membership as uncivil. A good number of times, a PBC or block has been issued, and the member who was the presumed victim did not perceive the post as hurtful, disrespectful, or uncivil. This extraordinarily low threshhold has led to a good bit of outrage. It is a factor in the members' feeling of PBC's and blocks being arbitrary. It has also served to suck the 'life' out of the forum overall. Scott very capably addressed this in one of his posts to his thread "This place is dying." Just something to consider..
Solstice
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