Posted by Lou Pilder on September 2, 2010, at 5:01:42
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-rhepleighzmnt, posted by hyperfocus on September 1, 2010, at 20:22:07
> Lou first up, I'm sorry if you been hurt by administrative action taken directly or indirectly towards you. The admin staff can and do make mistakes and some rules and actions taken can be hurtful and seem overly punitive and unfair. But there is no posting utopia unfortunately on this earth. I don't think Dr. Bob and his deputies deliberately try to hurt members or suppress discussion or expression of beliefs on the Faith board. It's just a very difficult job they have balancing the rights and responsibilities of everyone in the community while maintaining a safe environment. Most people here are very emotionally vulnerable so sometimes the best course of action is the 'safest' one meaning that there must be restrictions as to what can be said when affirming your faith.
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> However that said, I don't think that you can't express your beliefs here. I'm not familiar with the history of posting on the Faith board, but to me it seems that every faith requires imperatives and exclusivity claims in its affirmations. I don't know of any religion that doesn't claim it is charged with the exclusive franchise for salvation of human beings and woe be on any other vendor who attempts to sell officially licensed salvation merchandise to customers without proper authorization. Part of having faith is having faith in something and not in something else I guess.
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> So if somebody says "Jesus is the only way", then in the first place they may be just theologically ignorant of the relationship and covenant God had with the people of Israel, and in the 2nd place they're just expressing their faith. If a follower of Islam says "The Prophet is the only way" then I don't think he or she is being anti-christian or anti-judaism. It's just an expression of that person's faith. I mean billions of people all over the world affirm things like this at least once a week and sometimes several times a day. So we're all in big trouble if these affirmations are antisemitic.
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> I'm not really qualified to discuss this, but I think sometimes it is necessary to let the old wounds heal and try to move on. Yes it is true that there was a concentrated intellectual effort during the Nazi era to bring to bear all the psychological and economic and biological and historical theories they could muster on the Jewish people being inferior and worthy of destruction. But that era is gone. The truth is there's a lot of violence in this world, directed against all kinds of people. Hundreds of millions of people in Asia, Africa, the former Soviet Union, South America have been liquidated like animals. That's just the world we live in. But we have to move on. Like I said I've been in direct contact with psychiatric practice for a good number of years and despite their massive limitations and failings, I don't believe that the ultimate end was to do anything but get me better. You might have your reasons for being anti-drugs, as do a good number of people, but I don't believe God would put these tools in the hands of doctors and scientists for them to do anything than ease people's sufferings. If you have reasons for believing otherwise then I would really like to hear them. You could help a great deal of people here by posting what has been revealed to you.
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> So my advice to you would be to not dwell on what anybody else has posted here - you can only control your own actions. So I would go ahead and post what you believe has been revealed to you. I'm genuinely interested in what you would like to say to us. Only other thing I could advise is to preface what you say by "I believe..." Because that's all really that any of us have. I believe Lou Pilder is a child of God, as I am, and we will one day find salvation. I could be wrong but I hope I'm not.H-F,
You wrote,[...I am not fsamiliar with the history of posting on the faith board.. and post what has been revealed to you...preface with "I believe"...].
Here are some links to posts that are in threads that I am requesting that you look at and the othere posts in the thread. If you culd, then I think that with knowing the history there could be a better nderstanding of this ongoing situastion here and that we could have better dialog concerning the issues presented by the posts.
Lou
In this link, it brings up a thread and the post that I would like for you to read is authored by Deputy Dinah.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20070227/msgs/766933.html
In the following links, I would like for you to look at all of the posts in the threads.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090813/msgs/913286.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080313/msgs/821360.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:960265
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20100714/msgs/961016.html