Posted by Lou Pilder on April 10, 2010, at 7:38:34 [reposted on April 11, 2010, at 8:04:56 | original URL]
In reply to Re: please be civil » Lou Pilder, posted by Dr. Bob on April 10, 2010, at 1:14:48
> > The questions here in this thread are as to if taking mind-altering drugs classifies one or not as a sorcerer according to the bible discussed here.
> > That bible says that the sorcerers will be in the Lake of Fire.
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> Please don't post anything that could lead others (including those who take drugs) to feel accused or put down.
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> But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
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> More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express oneself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
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> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
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> Thanks,
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...do not post...that could lead...those who take drugs to feel accused or put down..].
Looking at the whole post in question, it says that there is a question here as to if the bible under discussion classifies or not those who take drugs to be in that catagory here in question. And the drugs in question are mind-altering drugs which is not the same as just drugs. I do not believe that I stated that those that take drugs are defined here to be in that catagory or not. This is a question of faith to those that post here that they are Christians and believe their scriptures to be truth to them and I am offering support from my perspective to those who are wanting to make that determination on their own. This, as I understand it, is the purpose of this faith forum and I have accepted your invitation to post here from my perspective which you say in your TOS here that different perspectives are encouraged to be posted here.
You have posted that the faith forum is for the discussion of what different faiths teach, meaning what the doctrins from their bibles state to them. What you have highlighted here is only what the bible that the Christians use state and the question here is to define who the sorcerers are or are not according to what that bible teaches as doctrin.
I am trying to save lives here by offering support to those that believe what is stated in their bible as truth to them. That is the function of this forum and your TOS here states that different points of view are ecouraged and that what a faith teaches is acceptable here to be posted as civil.
The fact that you did cite the whole statement by me that shows that it is a question here for Christians to think about makes it plainly visible that it is what it is, it says what it says. That is different from saying that I am saying that those that take drugs are determined in that bible to be in the catagory in question. I did not state that at all, only that one could want to make that determination on their own, and concerning mind-altering drugs, not just drugs.
There has been the question of Noah being drunk. Now if Noah was drunk accidently, then his drunkeness is not the same as a person drinking to get drunk. The God in question here has in the scriptures that that God looks at someone's heart which I was hoping to post here about in relation to giving support to those that are taking these mind-altering drugs.
Since your TOS states that the mission of the forum is for support and education, and I want to post what could be supportive and educational to Christians concerned about what their scriptures say about mind-altering drugs and the afterlife, I ask you if you would be willing to submit this to an impartial group to determine if what I have posted does or does not fall into your stated TOS here and abide by their determination. I suggest an ethics group to be used from a university. If you could, then I could have the opportunity to show numerous posts to that group that lead me to believe that what I had posted in question here is what the faith forum is for.
Since I did not say that those that are taking mind-altering drugs are or are not in the catagory in biblical question, but wrote that it is in question here as to if the bible does or does not say that, and you write here [...{including those that take drugs}...], your statement here is causing me a want for infomation as to why you posted that to me. Without me knowing why you posted that to me, that has the potential to cause me emotional distress. If you could post your rationale for posting this to me, then I could take that to another psychiatrist and have them determine if or if not there is a ligitimate reason for me to feel distress from what you wrote to me or not, for I am a guest here like anyone else and ask for you to post your rationale as you have stated you would do for those that ask you.
Lou Pilder
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