Posted by Lou Pilder on July 12, 2009, at 15:07:41
In reply to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on July 12, 2009, at 11:53:04
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> > > To me, it seems that Dr. Hsiung is too often granted less respect than we would demand for ourselves. I don't place him on a pedestal, but neither do I try to bury him under a mountain of incivility. Sometimes, it seems to me that there are episodes of a mob mentality targeting the doctor. He might not deserve praise for all of his actions, but neither do I for mine. Still, I would not demonstrate the patience that the doctor has if I had to be continually addressed with disrespectful tones.
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> > You wrote,[...disrespectfull tones...]
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> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to include or not include by that. If you could post answrs to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
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> I don't understand why you could not have offered a response without my answering your questions first.
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> > A. What constitutes in your thinking disrespectfull tones?
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> Devaluation.
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> > B. Is there a list of mermbers that you could make that are in the set of members that have posted in what you could describe as a disrespectful tone, if you could describe such here?
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> I could make a list of posts that were made over these last few days that I consider disrespectful to Dr. Hsiung. However, I believe that doing such a thing is uncivil and provokative. I am not so interested in affixing labels to people, though. Uncivil posts can be made by very civil people. People are NOT their behaviors. However, their behaviors do have consequences.
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> > C. If so, how could a member here obtain that list?
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> There is none to obtain. Everyone here has value, including Dr. Hsiung. A good starting place for defining a respectful tone might be to consider speaking to others in a way that you would have others speak to you.
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> Here is a direct question to you that I would like to have answered since I took the time to respond to yours:
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> What constitutes in your thinking disrespectful tones?
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> - ScottScott,
You wrote,[...I do not understand why you could not offer a response without me answering your questions first...]
For me to respond, I would need to know what you are wanting to mean by disrespectfull tones.
You see, to {respect} could mean to give a special high esteem to someone, and to disrespect is to {lack} respect. This could mean to me many things until you narrrowed your meaning to be {devaluation}.
Now that you have given me what you are wanting to mean by disrespectful, then I look at that in relation to your phrase,{disrespectful tone}
Now a tone could be a style of writing and that could then cause me to have a want for infomation as to how one could determine as to if a statement is in a style or not of being disrespectful or not according to what you are wanting to mean here.
If I was to be able to make that determination then I could examine posts to see if they do or do not fit that rationale to be considered disrespectful.
Now you have given me a reply that you are wanting to mean {devaluation}. A generally accepted meaning of devaluation is that something is made to be less. This now opens up a whole new perspective to me now that I have received your reply to as what you are wanting to mean by that and now I can focus on what you are wanting to mean rather than to speculate in any way.
Lou
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