Posted by Lou Pilder on April 2, 2008, at 9:04:11
In reply to Lou's request to Robert Hsiung-rvieghztos, posted by Lou Pilder on April 2, 2008, at 8:42:10
> > Mr. Hsiung,
> > In regards to that you write that it is fine to discuss actions you take, ask for your rationale, rules and policy here, I would like to have discussion with you here in this thread concerning your policy as to that one here is to [...not post anything that could lead another to feel accused or put down...].
> > My concerns are for clarification as to:
> > A. How do you determine if what is in question in a post as to if it could lead someone to feel accused or put down, as to what are the criteria in the statement that you use to make that determination.
> > B. In those criteria,if any, could you allow the statement in question, just because the poster writes that they believe it? If so, how does the fact that the member posting the statement in question that they believe it make the statement any less to the recipiant that {feels} put down or accused when they read it?
> > C. If a member objects to you that a statement here makes them feel put down or accused, do you have some way to say to them that the statement in question does not make them feel put down or accused, even though the member reporting writes that they feel accused or put down when they read the statement in question?
> > D. If so, do you take a survey of others in that group and ask them if they feel put down when they read the statement in question?
> > E. If a statement here is reported to you that it leads another to {feel} put down or accused, and if you take a position that is does not, by what authority do you use, if any, to tell the member reporting that the statment in question does not lead him/her to {feel} put down or accused {if the statement has in it the generally accepted criteria that constitutes a statment that could be of the nature that it puts down}?
> > If you could reply to any of the above, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. Others could offer their conception of what they think constitutes a statement that could lead another to feel put down or accused if they like here. One of the generally accepted meanings of {to put down} is for the statement in question to lead someone to feel belittled when they read the statement in question. Then there are derivatives from that and other meanings.
> > Lou Pilder
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> Let us look at (B.) in the above post.
> If you are wanting to mean that a statement that could lead another here to feel put down is allowed to be posted here unsanctioned on the basis that the poster of it writes that they believe it, could you then modify your TOS from:
> [...do not write {anything} that could lead another here to {feel} put down or accused...]
> to:
> [..you can write any statement here that could lead another to feel put down or accused if you write that you believe it...]?
> If you are wanting to mean that one can write what could lead another here to feel accused or put down if they write that they believe it, could you have your TOS to reflect that one can write a statement that puts down or accuses another or a group if they write that they believe it? I think that it could be good for the community to know in advance in your TOS here, if that is what you are wanting to mean, so that others could have a better understanding of your thinking here as to posting so that if one wants to post about someone else's whatever, they could do so with writing that they believe it so that if the statement in question meets the criteria that it could lead another to feel put down, they could have tha they believe it in the statement to allow it to stand. if you could reply here to me, then I could respond accordingly.
> Lou Pilder
>Mr. Hsiung,
In regards to your TOS that you are wanting feedback and such, I am wanting to reinstate my concerns and requests to you for clarification and the other posts that I have requested that you respond to me that went unresponded to me a few months ago even though I withdrew those requests, because I have changed my mind now because of new posts that have concerns to me that I think could be related to the ones that I withdrew my requests to you.
If there is any reason why you could not return to those posts that I withdrew my requests to, could you post a rationale for such , if any? If so, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou Pilder
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