Posted by muffled on March 11, 2008, at 9:54:41
In reply to In a nutshell, posted by Dinah on March 11, 2008, at 8:40:40
> I don't know that it will help, since it's Dr. Bob people want. But he's given his permission to explain what happened.
*LOL, Bob I do NOT want.....(sorry Bob)
> Dr. Bob wants to encourage posters to take more responsibility for the administration of Babble, and to encourage them to use the notify Administration button.
*I am OK with that.
> I don't think anyone has any problems with that, since neither Dr. Bob nor deputies read every post, and this would provide for more uniform administrating as well as a safer and more civil environment. As well as giving nondeputy posters a greater feel of ownership and responsibility with regard to Babble.*hmmmm, good point, but I can see it initially being a challenge.....y'know, the rat thing and all, and then posters feeling ganged up on etc
> I do have some issues with implementation, and the possible repercussions. But ordinarily I'd be willing to try to influence those while still being a deputy.*your a thinker dinah, Bob is lucky and so is babble, to have you aboard.
> What I wasn't ok with, at least in part for issues that I own as my mine, is that in order to encourage more posters to report and to give them time to do this, Dr. Bob wanted us not act on reports from deputies until a non-deputy poster had reported something. With the possible exception of incivility directed at ourselves. And he said that if I quit, I'd still be considered a deputy in this respect.*OK so now WHO is being manipulative???I say BOB......
Now that would SERIOUSLY piss me off if he said that to me. ESP saying that to you dinah who has been faithful. Methinks Bob has an apology to make, but that twixt you two.
So.....I can see this change being a challenge......> When it didn't seem a negotiable point, I felt I needed to protect myself, because of my own issues, by leaving. It was not in an attempt to influence Dr. Bob's plans. I'd already tried and failed to do that.
*(((Dinah)))You must have the patience of a saint.
> But Dr. Bob was more willing to be flexible than I had believed, and he was able to give me assurances that allowed me to stay without feeling unsafe.*Dr, Bob was flexible??????? Wow. (though KK would know all about Bob being *flexible*!!!)
> I tried to make it clear during all of this that many posters would actually like Dr. Bob's stance. And at least that there would be both positives and negatives involved. And that the reason I couldn't stay had more to do with my experiences and history than it did per se with the policy. Since whatever I thought of the policy, I'd have greater chances to influence it if I stayed.
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> I realize everyone would have preferred to hear it from Dr. Bob. I'd prefer that he explained himself since I'm sure I may have missed something important, or allowed my own beliefs to color the impression I'm giving. But my understanding is that he'll be here as soon as he's available.*Well, I dunno if I care who it comes from, and to be honest I bet it comes 100% better from you than from Bob.
What I am completely unimpressed with is that Bob lets this sort of thing go on so long. THATS when I start to think 'lab rat'.
I think the less Bob is around, the calmer it is. I think Bob either needs to be here, or NOT. But not this disrupting in and out w/out a word business...> There have been in the past, and hopefully won't be very often in the future, times when he just isn't available. I guess that's why the deputies now play more of a role than they did when first conceived, and when I first agreed to do it.
*Hmmmm, you guys did kinda get sucked in, and maybe this administrative change is supposed to or even will eventually help with this.
I just sorta think if Bob is going to take a backseat then he needs to take a BACKSEAT. Not have his picture here, and everything be DR BOB, cuz its NOT. Then it might be calmer.
Thats my opinion.
I have more thots, but goto go.
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