Posted by Lou Pilder on February 25, 2007, at 7:27:05
In reply to Lou's rsponse to aspects of Honore's post-B, posted by Lou Pilder on February 24, 2007, at 15:18:56
> > > Meri, I agree with you on the fact that I often don't want posts xxx'ed out or pbced etc.
> > >
> > > That's why I see selective enforcement --or, actually, selective or, simply, limited attention-- as beneficial.
> > >
> > > If I don't want a post or poster pbc'ed-- I'm glad it/they aren't.
> > >
> > > Consistent enforcement is an ideal notion; it's not possible to have it in the real world of pbabble.
> > >
> > > Why regret that, when the plus side is that each of us, with our private standards, can see things that might, in the "ideal" world of consistent enforcement, be blocked, etc, left to stand?
> > >
> > > ie there are pluses and minuses to all things: the plus of consistent enforcement is intertwined with the minus of sacrificing posts or people or people's equanimity to various sanctions;
> > >
> > > the minus of inconsistent enforcement is uncertainty or sometimes a feeling of anxiety about fairness, or discomfort with some posts, but the plus is that things that each of us might prefer are to that extent satisfied.
> > >
> > > You can't have it both ways: you can only have the plus of each side of the either/or, not the plus of both sides at once, without any minuses.
> > >
> > > So be happy that the unxxxed post is there if you're okay with it, even at the cost of some falling away from the ideal enforcement-- even at the cost of seeing some posts that you're uncomfortable with left also.
> > >
> > > Honore
> >
> > Honore,
> > You wrote,[...I see selective enforcement...as benificial..consistant enforcment is an ideal notion; its not possible..in pbabble...the plus side is..things that could be blocked are left to stand..the plus is that things that each of us might prefer are to that extent satisfied...].
> > The grammatical structure of your post leads me to have a want for clarification. Could you clarify the following?
> > A. In your saying that you think that selective enforcment is benificial because things that could be blocked,(uncivil posts) are {left to stand}, is it benificial to the welfare of just the ones that want the (uncivil) post to stand, that could have been blocked if the enforcement was not selective, or do you think that it is benificial to all the members to let an uncivil post to stand?
> > B. If one match could start a forest fire, could not the (uncivil) post, that is selectivly allowed to stand, cause a forest fire? If not, why not?
> > C. In a mental health community, could you agree that having two standards could cause the one that is subjected to discrimination to be led to feel inferior? If so, could allowing an uncivil post to stand, while sanctioning the same type of post to another, have the potential to foster emotional harm to that other member as to be led to feel inferior? If so, is it , in your opinion, a sound mental health practice to have selective enforcment?
> > If you could clarify that, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > Lou
> >
> >
> Honore,
> you wrote,[...the minus of consistant enforcement is
> 1.sacrificing posts
> 2.sacrificing people
> 3.sacrificing people's eqanimity...]
> Could you clarify;
> D. what you mean by {sacrificing posts}? If you could, could you include in your reply how that if posts that are notated as uncivil are {sacrificed}?
> E. Also,in your opinion, how could a {person} be sacrificed if their post was notated as being uncivil?
> F. Also, if you are using the grammatical structure of the word, [equanimity} to mean {a mind that stays on course under stress}, how does ,in your opinion, notating a post as being uncivil sacrifice that?
> Lou
>
Honore,
You wrote,[...consistant enforcement .. >not< |possible| to have in the real world of pbabble...].
The grammatical structure of your statement could mean either that in your use of {not}, that there could be a prohibition or denial or negation or something else to (consistant enforcement} in pbabble.
The generally accepted meaning of not is that ,in the case the {possibility}, is what is connected to the {not}.
Be as it may be as to what this could have the potential to mean, I think that if we examine the construction of the administration, then one could make there own determination as to if it {is} possible or not >possible< to have consistant enforcement here.
The administration of the site is under the operation of the owner, Dr. Hsiung. He has 5 or so assistants to operate the site in his behalf to notate uncivil posts, delete grossly objectionable posts and other functions in his behalf as listed in the FAQ of the TOS here.
To assist the deputies and the owner, a feature to call to the attention of posts has been made available here wher the post will be delivered to all of the administraors per the confirmation page of the notification feature here.
Now if the notification is made, then there is, according to the feature, a confirmation that the notification will be delivered to all the deputies. At the point that all the deputies and DR. Hsiung has had the post in question {delivered} to them,if they received it, then at that point there is a {possibility}, IMO, that (consistant enforcement) is at least innitiated to examine the post in question.
If all the depuities and DR. Hsiung are unwilling to respond to the notification, if it was delivered to them according to the confirmation page, at least they could have had IMO the {opportunity} to have {consistant enforcement} of the rules here.
Another aspect for members here to make there own determination as to if {consistant enforcement} is possible, is that one deputy has posted that if there has not been a response to a notification that a postt on the administrative board about that would be {sufficient} for that deputy to {check} for posts that have not been responded to. Then if there still is not a response fromm the administration, a member could post on the administrative board a reminder to check for the notification.
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:735638
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