Posted by Lou Pilder on December 27, 2006, at 16:03:30
In reply to Re: *Trigger* Happyflower and » Farkus, posted by ElaineM on December 27, 2006, at 12:33:25
> I agree with what you've written and support the need to find an appropriate resolution to suicide being used as a threat -- direct or implied. I've said a couple of my thoughts before, and don't really have anything new to add, but I support the efforts of this thread.
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> I agree that a link can be there even if "appropriate" wording is used. Perhaps by taking one or two questionable sentences out of a post/thread it's possible to argue that nothing further than what the language specifically suggests is implied. But I think it can become evident within the context of an entire post, or a string of post/replies in a thread (if such are written). I don't have a problem with posting of suicidal ideation, or wanting to kill oneself, just when it's connected to the actions, or non-actions of other posters. I'm personally extremely sensitive to the word "if", in that context. I'm confused because I've seen posters get blocked for, what I'd consider, much less. Perhaps I'm too sensitive, but I don't know what could be worse on a mental health forum than not ensuring that suicide is always treated with the utmost sensitivity, respect and gravity.
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> This is also something that's probably just my own personal thing but it's along similar lines, so I figured I'd add it in here. Theoretically, I would feel manipulated if suicide was repeatedly, and knowingly, used inplace of a (perhaps less loaded) emotion. I feel that reducing such a devastating act to a synonym for "confused", "hurt", "angry", "afraid", "rejected", "lonely", or any other emotion makes light of that type of death. I would feel offended if a process like that could be acknowledged by each party involved, "apoligized" for, and yet repeated over - without consequence. It would make me feel manipulated and unsafe - but that's just me.
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> It is true that I, as others, have some transference issues regarding behaviours and subjects encountered when using this or other forums, but I don't think that that should detract from the concurrant, in-the-moment interaction happening here, or provide a reason for it to be ignored or consequence-free -- whenever it occurs, and by whomever. I'd think lack of appropriate use of consequences fosters repetition, not discussion or re-education -- if anything I'd think it would only do the opposite.
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> I'm sorry that so many involved with this thread are hurting - everyone.
> blove, ElFriends,
It is written here,[...I..support the need to find a resolution to suicide being used as a threat..direct or implied...I support the efforts of this thread...suicide treated with the utmost...].
I am tremendously interested in this thread and its development to, in my hopes, to reach a higher level of understanding about suicide as a result of the efforts of posters here , for it is a very stressfull topic, even in a mental-health forum.
Looking at what Dr. Hsiung has posted here in 716245, he writes,[..online..of suicide ideation can be..suicide prevention..enable to receive more..support...stressfull for others..attract..false reports...]
In this administrative discussion, many have posted what their thoughts are concerning this important topic and how the administration could be used accordingly.
My views are that aspects that arrise out of this discussion can have the potential to have a preventative effect to others that read this thread if some of the issues could be explored more. But this could be problematic.
Looking back at ElaineM's statement,[...resolution of suicde being used as a threat..] and coupled with Dr. Hsiung's statemnet,[...enable to receive more support...], then I think that a different forum here for just being about suicide, with a different set of guidlines for discussion could IMO facilitate a more supportive millieu for this unique aspect that IMO is deresrving of special circumstatnces.
Looking again at DR. Hsiung's post here, he writes that others could be attracted to this forum for these type of threads. Well, if there was a forum here only for that, then could there not be the potential for that circumstance to be welcomed? Any ideas?
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:716057
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/716724.html