Posted by Lou Pilder on November 29, 2006, at 16:33:20
In reply to Re: Ame Sans Vie and Babble » SLS, posted by zazenduckie on November 29, 2006, at 12:07:04
> > > > Do you feel that Psycho-Babble played a causative role in the suicide of Ame Sans Vie?
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> I was actually posting under the assumption that the unusual drug consumption might be implicated in an accidental poisoning rather than an outright suicide. Or that years of the drug regimen he described might have compromised his health in other ways that led to his death. I thought Phillipa had posted that it wasn't a suicide.
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> > > No, not causative.
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> > Then what?
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> I think if a poster posted about taking a combination of narcotics amphetamines and barbituates and various herbal mixtures and stated his opinion that he was something of an expert on pharmacology and the board gave him a forum and reinforced that opinion and gave him positive feedback that perhaps they colluded to some extent.
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> > > But I think someone should take a careful look at whether ASV's relationship with Babble was good either for himself or for others who read the years of archived posts Dr Bob keeps available to the public.
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> > Do you feel that the extent to which free speech is allowed on Psycho-Babble provides information by which the majority of readers hurt themselves?
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> I don't know. I wouldn't think so.
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> > > I hope someone lets us know what the cause of death was and whether the years of extreme medication and other substance use he described here contributed.
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> >> What would be the importance of having this information?
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> Because his opinions and advice are still in the archives as well as his medication history and it would put that
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> >>Do you suppose that his intent to post on Psycho-Babble his experiences with medication influenced his behavior?
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> I don't know. Sometimes people have said they are going to try a certain medicine and report back to Babble. I don't know if ASV did. I wouldn't think that was a very big influence, but I don't know. People will sometimes do things for an audience they wouldn't otherwise do.
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> >>Did his posting through the years influence the behavior of others?
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> Possibly.
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> >>Is there any evidence that such influence was harmful to a single person?
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> I don't know. I think it would be good if someone impartial went through the archives and tried to find out. But I don't think that is very likely to happen.
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> >> And what if it was?
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> If it was I think it would be prudent to remove whatever posts were leading to harm even for a single person. And to reconsider the posting guidelines.
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> >>What is the threshold that one should use to judge the benefits versus dangers of Psycho-Babble?
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> I don't know. I think I'd go with Hippocrates. First of all do no harm.
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Friends,
It is written above,[...poster posted about taking (...a combination of narcotics,amphetimines, barbituates...)..board gave him a forum..perhaps they colluded...]
I think that what ZZDuk has posted is one of the top ten most important issues here for this and other mental health forums.
Lou
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poster:Lou Pilder
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/708669.html