Posted by 10derHeart on April 14, 2006, at 21:39:20 [reposted on April 14, 2006, at 22:17:03 | original URL]
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks, posted by special_k on April 14, 2006, at 20:30:22
I dunno. I didn't take it as meaning the policy, because, as you say, policies can't feel, post, etc. People make policies and people make up the groups a poster might describe as, for one example, "the left/centre."
I took it as meaning that the *people* who make up what Declan considers the "left/centre" (and I have little idea who that is...but that's me showing my political ignorance and/or not quite following Declan's posts, as far as which countries or governments he's referring to soemtimes,etc.) - are clueless. Which I believe is what Dr. Bob is saying.
It's like....if I'm in a group of people who I hear discussing a problem/situation and I completely disagree with their ideas of what to do, or even what they believe about the thing, etc., and I really want to express myself, to get out all my opposite or different ideas, to tell them about my alternatives and hopefully, demonstrate through doing this, how their way isn't the best, well...would I move this potential dialog forward by inquiring of them at the outset why they were "so clueless?"
I can't imagine it. But I think you're saying we ought to be able to speak thay way here? Or am I missing your point? Perhaps I can't divorce a policy from the policymakers, or policy-supporters, at least in this context, and you definitely can? Is that it, maybe?
Wouldn't it just be so much easier to refrain from labeling? To say you don't agree, strongly oppose...whatever....that policy or stance or view, and then tell the board what you think xxx group *should* or *could* do *instead?*
This is so very frustrating. I hate that we can't seem to come to some understanding of this. I wish I had some brilliant way to fix it so *all* posters felt they could stay, remain civil, feel safe and be heard. I see it as so very possible. But I'm at a loss as to any way to help that happen.
argghhhhhh :-(
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