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Re: ample warnings and chances given » ClearSkies

Posted by zenhussy on March 21, 2006, at 16:45:19

In reply to Re: blocked for 6 weeks » Dr. Bob, posted by ClearSkies on March 21, 2006, at 16:02:34

> Can I ask why you didn't give Our Dearest Lar a PBC or a request for rephrase? Isn't this the process for escalation to a block???
> I'se very confused. What's up with this?
> Thank you,
> ClearSkies

This is the timeline for this mega long thread and the PBCs, PRTs and so forth. Once a poster has a record like Larry's they are presumed to know the rules and are not given the same warnings as "new rule breakers". Larry has had numerous PBCs, PRTs, PBSs and blocks over his years here. Based on that history Dr. Bob doesn't give warnings as he's already spent years giving warnings of a similar nature to Dear Lar. We find no reason for confusion with this administrative action as it follows the history of admin. decisions made on this site.

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Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 4:48:35

In reply to My apologies, fellow Babblers, posted by Larry Hoover on March 5, 2006, at 10:11:56

> I thought I could speak calmly about this topic, but I have discovered that it is too upsetting. I find myself taking on individual posters, instead of debating the merits. I am truly sorry.

I'm glad you see that happening. However:

> Is it civil, to knowingly ignore the provocative nature of your posts? Even when you know what happens because of it? Is it civil to sow emotional land-mines on the Boards of Babble? And, what is your harvest?

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused.

But please also don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

One possibility is to ask another poster to be your "civility buddy" and preview posts before you submit them.

Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/616516.html
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Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 7:57:24

In reply to Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 4:48:35

I shall. Thanks, Bob.

Lar

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/616529.html
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Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 9:03:51

In reply to Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 4:48:35

In response to a *joke* about George Bush (who I bet has never even heard of this place), you admonish the poster with a PBC:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/poli/20060304/msgs/616456.html

And, in that admonishment, you specifically ask the poster to "be sensitive to their feelings".

Why on Earth am I having such a difficult time obtaining that same consideration, and protection?

Why?

I'm not hypothetical. I really do read posts here. I really do have my feelings hurt, over and over again. I'm not the only one, if you read this thread with even one eye open. Why are *you* not sensitive to the feelings of others, Dr. Bob? Why do I have to beg?

Lar

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/616547.html
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Re: thanks (nm) » Larry Hoover
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 13:33:21

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 7:57:24

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/616644.html
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Re: hurt feelings
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 13:33:26

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2006, at 9:03:51

> I'm not hypothetical. I really do read posts here. I really do have my feelings hurt, over and over again.

I'm sorry if you feel I'm turning my back on you. Would you at least agree that this would be a step in the right direction?

Bob

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/616645.html
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Re: please rephrase that » Larry Hoover
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2006, at 22:52:33

In reply to Re: Am I the only one? » JenStar, posted by Larry Hoover on March 8, 2006, at 13:37:13

> Just knowing that it is the policy that someone cares whether or not I get triggered, and backs that up with some kind of authority, is very supportive. It helps me bounce back. It doesn't help me in the moment of finding the land-mine, but it helps afterwards.

It can be important to feel cared about by someone with authority. I understand that. I'm sorry you don't feel that here.

> > Plus, as I mentioned before, retroactive flagging could in fact be an option.
>
> And how do I know when that task has been completed

You can't know for sure, but on a busy board, give it a day?

> Would it be reasonable to toss a box of condoms into the lap of a woman who was seeking treatment after having unprotected sex with an HIV-positive man, and send her on her way, confident that all was well?

Would it have been reasonable, if condoms had been available, for her not to have used them because she considered them, um, barriers to participation?

> I don't want the job, as I said.

That's OK, others are willing to do it.

> I'm glad to see that you accept the idea of a core list of trigger subjects. That's big progress already.

Thanks, one step at a time...

> you, the insensitive (used in that rhetorical sense implied above)

Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even if rhetorical, could you please rephrase that?

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/617812.html
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Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2006, at 7:06:36

In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2006, at 22:52:33

> > you, the insensitive (used in that rhetorical sense implied above)
>
> Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even if rhetorical, could you please rephrase that?

I used an abstract structure, and expressly selected the definition I intended, and I don't know what more to do that still has anything the meaning I wanted to convey. I can't think of a rephrasing. Will an apology do? I'm sorry I made uncivil inferences about anybody.

Now, would you please just let me go?

I'm a stranger in a strange land. Why couldn't I simply accept that if people heard me cry out for help, that it would be enough? I never had anybody just listen to me about a selfish thing. There was always a gauntlet to run, and I never once made it through. So, I am unprepared for how to do that simple thing. I put on the whole TV campaign, and wrote speeches. I was gearing up to march on the Capital....

That was intended to be self-deprecating humour, the last post I made to Jen. My way of acknowledging what a PITA I can be.

I *need* to go now.

Lar

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/617852.html
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Re: please rephrase that » Larry Hoover
Posted by AuntieMel on March 9, 2006, at 8:51:28

In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on March 9, 2006, at 7:06:36

How about "those who don't get triggered"

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/617867.html
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Re: blocked for 6 weeks » Larry Hoover
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 21, 2006, at 3:18:38

In reply to Re: Posting more difficult » itsme2003, posted by Larry Hoover on March 16, 2006, at 11:55:46

> she accused me of felony criminal conduct, and other uncivil things. ... She called me a criminal

> her uncivil comments

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused. Sorry, but I'm going to block you from posting for 6 weeks again.

But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person. And I don't want anything bad to happen to you. In a crisis, please also get help in person. You may also wish to check out a listing compiled by a poster of helpful web pages on coping with crisis at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psycho-babble-tips/links/Coping_with_crisis_001012507973

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

One possibility is to ask another poster to be your "civility buddy" and preview posts before you submit them.

Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

> Clearing most of the mines from a minefield would not make me feel safe to walk there. Putting up a sign warning me away from the minefield would.

Warning: Larry, this site might be a minefield for you.

> Moderators or interested Babblers would have to "pick up after" posters who didn't comply?

Think of it as Babblers looking out for each other?

Bob

URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060317/msgs/622754.html


 

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