Posted by Larry Hoover on March 8, 2006, at 20:06:56
In reply to Re: Another tack » Larry Hoover, posted by Gabbix2 on March 8, 2006, at 19:28:55
> I feel manipulated by this.
I'm sick and tired of being manipulated by people who put their desire to speak their minds ahead of my desire to clear the area first. Maybe we're on a more even keel right now.
> It's not all about you.
Feel free to speak about you. I happen to be an expert about me.
> I feel like the my pain and my needs and that of others is being ignored in order to bring the focus to your own. And it's becoming progressively more dramatic as the thread goes on, without your desired resolution.
If you wanna debate, I've given you years' worth. Drum me out if you must, but I'm not going to be taken for granted in this way any more. I am not a selfish person. I seldom even speak of my own needs. It's part and parcel with my disorder, though. And though there be good and better ways to get across what I'm trying to get across, I know that I *have* gotten across.
So, I'm done, unless somebody wants to take some more cracks at me, instead of the ideas.
> WE couldn't be in as much pain as you, or we'd agree with you.I asked for a witness to a special view into the dynamic of one word, protection, as it applies to triggers. I am stubborn to make that point.
I don't profess expert status on such matters. But I can tell you I have been studying advocacy with local experts, and I have attended dozens of hours of special workshops on similar issues. A solution must originate from the perspective of the one in need. Must do so. Nothing else is within the dignity of the need itself, except by chance. Unless you don't care to meet the need at all, which can lead to much ado going nowhere. I'm trying to avoid that wasted effort.
> No one could feel as strongly about something, and react in a different way.
I dare say you're reading many things in, that I didn't place there.
> No according to you they'd be thinking "F*ck those people in wheelchairs"
Got your attention, huh. That was a quote, by the way. Not my words, but a quote, from a public meeting I attended. And, if you read that paragraph again, you can hear the dripping sarcasm, swim in it.
> You've said yourself that you post on Alt.Depression.medication..
> There is not even the most remote form of moderation there, it's a free for all I can't go there, it makes me sick to my stomach.I do post to a.s.d.m., but only in an advisory capacity any more. Got rid of the last neanderthal, and things are smooth, for the last while.
> It's personal, I know, however what you've said here however indirectly has been very personal, and worded very strongly.Yes.
> You claim that people couldn't know how you feel.
Not without listening precisely to my answers, not even a chance. Voluntary flagging does not address the special needs which I have been discussing. Needs which are not unique to me. I just know mine best, so I use them in discussion. I, from the get-go, made this about the sensitized, not me. 10% of the mentally ill, give or take. Not sure about Babble, because of the distortion imposed by years' of not addressing what no other moderated site I know has failed to address. Didn't want to put it like that, but it's not just PsychCentral that I compare it to.
I swear, again, I cannot believe I have to debate the merits.
> Do you know how everyone else feels?
Nope. Wouldn't be so presumptuous.
> I don't understand this.Sorry. Shall I try again?
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