Posted by deirdrehbrt on February 28, 2006, at 3:58:18
In reply to Re: A word earns a PBC, posted by Dr. Bob on February 28, 2006, at 2:31:43
Dr. Bob. It seems we crossed paths. Still, I wish to respond to what you wrote.
I said that f r * g is a word. True. A word is a group of letters which in the english language represent a sound that conveys meaning. This word happens to be a name. It was not used in context in a vulgar manner. Nor do I believe that any rational person could have been offended by that word in the context in which it was used. When my discussion mentioned that the word had been vulgarized, I was still discussing it in the context of the name. Clipping a sentence from a post removes it from the context rendering it devoid of meaning at best, and changing it's meaning at worst. Certainly
> I just saw how the word f r [*] g was splatted.could be interpreted as someone who just wanted to use the word f r [*] g. Especially when taken out of context as you have done. To anybody reading the post though, such could not have been the case. My meanings were eminently clear.
As mentioned in my previous post, and in yours to which I am responding, it seems that we are in agreement of a solution.
That being said, I will say that I still find it unfair that one while a Goddess' name is banned for being vulgar, that a particular God isn't. This is not to mean that I wish either to be banned. I just feel it to be a sort of double-standard. True, the meaning is somewhat different, but that God's name is used in just as vulgar a context, at least as often. Sometimes in the same sentence. It truly seems to me that because of the perceived novelty of this Goddess showing up on the board, that she isn't taken as seriously. I do hope that you know that I take my faith as seriously as any Christian here. And as important as is the name of Jesus Christ, for whom I also have deep respect, to Christians, so are the names of the Goddesses and Gods of my faith.
I do stand by the civility of the post which started this. I believe that I offended no-one, and hope that you will not be offended if I do not apologize for said post. I have already offered ammends for my behavior afterward, and stand by that also. I feel that my response to your pbc was much less civil than the original post. It was done though without objectionable words or names.
I'm not looking for a revocation of a pbc here. I'm just making the case, and which I believe to be a valid one, that no uncivil communication took place.
I will take you up on your offer to use the name Frigg should I offer that particular blessing again.
I hope that you can understand my position, my being upset at my post being disected to the point where meaning was lost and altered, and that you will accept my ammends for what I believe to be unreasonable behavior afterward.
I would also like you to know that while coming to compromise I am still not completely satisfied with the solution. I feel that the name of a Goddess is being unduly maligned.
Still, the conversations that have been started are, I hope, having the effect for which I am seeking. It is providing on a very small scale at present, interfaith communication, and demonstrating that while there are different beliefs, that Pagans and Christians are able to live side by side and not be afraid of each other. Even better, we are able to like each other. That communication and demonstration are in the end, worth more than gold.
Too often, Pagans are resentful of Christians, distrusting them and believing them wanting to destroy thier faith. Too, many Christians believe Pagans to be decieved by the devil, base and vulgar people given only to sinful natures, incapable of true goodness.
The discussion that we are having is even now beginning to dispel these myths on both sides. Real, honest, and heartfelt communications between a Christian and a Pagan are taking place. No-one is being offended. This, to me, is the ideal which your board aspires to. It is a valuable thing, and I hope you permit it to continue.
I think that the "Please rephrase that" comments aren't really necessary. We understand each other, and so does the other gentleman( I believe) who has made some comments. I think that most readers who might frequent that board will also.
Of course, with any religious discussion, there may be potential for it to get out of hand. I suppose that's what you are trying to avoid. I recognize that this is your board. Still, I hope you'll let what's happening here continue. I hope that you see it as something of worth.So, realizing that my mania continues, as it's nearly 5:00 AM, I'll end this.
For Brigid,
--Dee
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