Posted by gardenergirl on July 24, 2005, at 13:42:23
In reply to Re: question to Dr. Bob about other boards research? » gardenergirl, posted by alexandra_k on July 24, 2005, at 1:22:40
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> But if one didn't have / didn't want a lisence to practice anyway....Hmmm, but psychologists who are not clinical are not licensed, and they still have to deal with APA ethics and with IRB's etc.
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> >it's such a standard in research with human participants in all fields to have a specific informed consent in place, that I would be surprised.
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> Yeah. I bet there is a difference between recruiting subjects to participate in an experiment vs making observations too... I mean... I can see why there are strict ethical guidelines around running experiments. But what about recording observations? Does that run differently or are they as strict about that too???I know at my school there are different levels of IRB approval. I am using archival data, and I essentially need to just get a "sign-off". Surveys require a bit more scrutiny, but are also fairly easy to get approved. Experiments or some other type of data collection from human participants are the hardest to get approved. You have to jump through lots of hoops. I suspect observation would fall somewhere between surveys and experiments, but then again, you could go to the mall and count backpacks and do no harm. Hmmmm.
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> If I wanted to conduct a survey... I'm not sure. I'm not so sure. I said (rather jokingly) to my supervisor that I would be interested to do a survey on what the 'common man' believed (Austin is fond of making claims about what the 'common man' believes about knowledge, reality, language etc). I thought that we could use 1st years as the 'common men' and maybe give them course credit ;-) My supervisor said that he didn't think I'd get ethical approval for that. I'm not sure why. Maybe he was worried about Austins use of the term 'common man'. Maybe he was kidding. I've mentioned it to others in the dept. and they couldn't figure why he would say that. They didn't think I'd need ethical approval.Interesting. I'm lucky in that one of the people on my committee is also on the IRB.
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> And so...
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> Best I can figure all that is there in philosophy is the copyright restriction on reproducing other peoples words. To properly reference for the most part...
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> Probably... The laws aren't all caught up with the technology yet.Probably so, I don't follow this at all.
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> And philosophy might be a bit lax with observations / quotations.
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> I do have sympathy with the thought that it is unethical to quote parts of peoples posts without their permission. Especially given the point that they post here to give / receive support - and not to be quoted in doing so. I do get that. My point is just that if someone felt differently... I don't know that there would be anything to stop them.
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> Maybe some professionals
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> So my thought is that it is better to be explicit about that than to make promises that one might well be unable to keep...
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