Posted by alexandra_k on March 6, 2005, at 15:01:59
In reply to Re: immediate concerns, posted by cubic_me on March 6, 2005, at 5:58:22
I think that there is a difference between posting suicidal ideation and suicidal urges. Well, the border can be fuzzy at times to be sure, but my understanding is that it would be clear cases of the latter that would warrant someones internet provider being contacted.
I post ideation quite a bit. I also say that I will be okay. I don't want to worry people but I do want to vent what is going on for me. Nobody has had a problem with that (that I am aware of) but people did express concern and I got some supportive posts which helped me.
But when someone posts something saying that they are going to do something or they have just done something or saying goodbye to everyone then that is when something needs to be done. It is that kind of stuff that I wish people wouldn't post here because a) It is a gamble as to whether Dr Bob can do something so they receive intervention in time and b) The rest of us have to deal with being very concerned (possibly triggered) and helpless and powerless to do anything. I don't think it is fair to the posters here. We are not trained to deal with suicide intervention. With respect to getting supportive posts you don't need to post the latter kind of claims to get support. The rest of it is unnecessary and there are much more appropriate alternative places with trained staff that people can turn to.
If we can get someones ISP provider to contact the police then Babble becomes something of an emergency service. If that is acceptable then I would request that the latter kinds of urges be prefaced with a special trigger warning. In fact, why not just hook it up to 911 directly ???
> I think that if the system of people being able to notify ISP providers was in place, I would hardly talk at all on these boards for fear of the police knocking on my door.
Yes. I can see it now. Police phone the manager at the hostel: some of the residential assistants are informed etc etc. Then they want to know whether I post on this board and what I post and why someone called the cops on me etc etc. Humiliating. But I do think that there could be measures around this. We would need to know what kinds of things warrant a call to the ISP provider (to make sure we don't say them) and that calls are made only on the basis of our having posted such things.
I apprecite that I will probably get jumped on again... But I do think that it is possible to express yourself in a way that is true to your experience AND considerate of posters and their position here at the same time.
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