Posted by alexandra_k on February 22, 2005, at 15:56:18
In reply to Re: why I'm surprised you are surprised » alexandra_k, posted by AuntieMel on February 22, 2005, at 14:41:39
> While this could have been worded more supportively I didn't read it as a value judgement. But - I couldn't find the original post and maybe if I could read it I would change my mind.
Okay, so maybe 'value judgement' is a bit harsh. He was making a statement about *his* responses to people, but the implication was that *his* response was *normal* or *inevitable* given the symptoms. If that is the case then it is not such a great step from there to the *fact* he may have attempting to avoid being blocked for: that people with the diagnosis are untrustworthy and are unable to communicate rationally.
> > >sometimes it is painful to face up to stuff... but that the long term goods outweigh the initial 'ouch'.
> > Is that perhaps something that you think people with the bordeline diagnosis need to face up to?
> I don't know. I was quoting you on that one...Sorry - rhetorical device. Not completely fair. I was just trying to create a bridge between my response to fires and the things you quoted me as having said previously. I don't think there is inconsistency between them. That is all I was trying to illustrate.
> > >Can you say something that is educational though possibly a bit hurtful (though not uncivil).> > I fail to see what was educational about that, unless we wanted to learn about fires opinion. He was also given a civility warning so it seems that not only was that not educational it was also not civil and as I said, it was hurtful to me at the very least.
> That one was quoting you, too.
> > > "But compassion, empathy, kindness, and faith in others intentions are not matters of logic. I hope that I never let logic get in the way of those things. I have little tolerance for people who do."> > Right, and I stand by that. Except to add that I probably need to learn to have more tolerance..
> Agreed. Tolerance is a good thing. Something we should all work on.Yeah. The world would be a better place if everyone worked on that one :-)
But sometimes things are just a bit much and we need to avoid them until we are stronger. Not forever, but for a while...
>Is it possible that fires felt backed into a corner?Yeah, I dare say I would have felt pretty defensive being on the receiving end of the posts he got. But then my response would be to go back through them and try to see what I did (if anything) to prompt such responses.
Not just say 'oh well, thats what you get for trying to talk rationally with mentally ill people'.
> > By the way I appreciate your thinking and your opinion.
> Thank you for that.You are welcome.
I left that in because it bears repeating :-)>I like the way you think logically myself.
I try. But I am not perfect, nooooooooo way.
> During the small board ruckus I was here and posted some, but I was going through a lot of {dung} and not thinking too clearly.Ok, I guess I'll have to forgive ya then ;-)
> peace.Yeah, peace.
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