Posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 15:28:34
In reply to Re: I think I am still trying to understand... » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on January 31, 2005, at 23:40:45
> Ok. There I would say 'why is it wrong to mock handicapped people' and we would probably agree that it is hurtful. And so here I guess your point is that the former is hurtful too...Yep, that's it, thanks, I have to work on my clarity.
> But I would say that some good could come of small boards (not that it *will* come - but that it *might possibly*) for all the reasons that Dr Bob has given.People already have that choice, why must it be risked under the auspices of Babble?
Whereas I cannot see what good could come of mocking handicapped people.No.
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> Maybe he doesn't get how hurt people are likely to be...I think that's likely, I really do.
> > Yes, and he does, as I do, it works both ways.
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> Yes.
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> > > And that is a different issue from whether they should be implemented or not.
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> > No, actually I can agree to disagree on just about any topic but not where it involves implementing something that I believe is going to hurt people.
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> Not even for a greater good? I would say that Dr Bob thinks more good than harm would be likely to come from this or he wouldn't want to implement the idea. Maybe he is wrong, but I have faith that he is well intentioned (as are we all...).That would contradict Dr. Bobs previous and stated philosophies/actions, which was to protect the most sensitive at the risk of alienating the majority, an examply being the srict offensive language rules. And again, I can't see the greater good when the opportunity to have private conversations is already freely available.
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> Ok, I retract 'envy' (apologies) and replace it with 'hurt' as follows:
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> > > Some people may feel hurt that they cannot be part of one small board in particular.
> > > Sounds like that is what people are trying to prevent.I don't think it's one small board in particular. I really don't. I think it's a general feeling of exclusion, hurt that people need to seperate from the rest, it's an inference.
It's very natural to have a close group of friends, but it's rude to only associate with them when you are in public.
> > > But are those feelings of hurt something that follows from small boards or something that follows from...I'm not sure the deeper reasons need to be dealt with here, that's for therapy. I think babble should be easier on people than that babble is for people who are already working on enough things and should I believe be a place that is as comfortable as possible.
> But is there a possible greater good?No, I don't think so. If there is I think it's sacrificing the type of people who are sacrificed every day every where else in the world and that repulses me on a mental health board.
> Will some people stay on Babble who otherwise would leave?
> Will some people feel more supported and more understood?
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> Hard to weigh...
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> I haven't made my mind up either way...
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> PS. Ever thought of taking up philosophy :-)Ha! That's funny. I took philosophy for half a semester, it drove me bats. I figure if you can get everyone to agree on one thing (namely a philosophy) then you have no need for a philosophy.. Now when people discuss philosophy that's generally when I go play with the dog. : )
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