Posted by Dr. Bob on December 19, 2003, at 19:20:41
In reply to Re: Add to above^^^^^ » jay, posted by gabbix2 on December 19, 2003, at 15:07:56
> As a moral courtesy to the posters who personally knew sar and those that knew her through the board would you please contact her family with your presentation so that they know what is being done with her words years after her death?
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> zenhussyI think my position will be that she gave me permission to use her words in this way. Others are free to contact them if they think that's the right thing to do...
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> A few other comments that I think should be included. One is ... who the group "doesn't" represent
Yes, that's a good point, conclusions about this group can't necessarily be generalized.
> are there pre-cautions you have to take in running the site, whatever they may be, to prevent an influence on someone committing suicide?And...do you ever worry about interference in the therapeutic progress of site members?
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> JayIn general? Or as a result of this suicide?
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> It also makes me wonder if you care about us at all, or just see us as subjects. I hope it's at least a little of both.
Of course I care about you! And I also care about others who might potentially be helped by a better understanding of online communities...
> > > Honestly it seems tacky and exploitative seeing sar's death turned into a case study. Count me as creeped out.
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> > What about seeing it, as Nikki suggested, as a way to try to increase awareness and understanding of online communities?
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> what's wrong with also seeing it as a little disturbing and violating to us 'subjects'?Nothing at all, it's not either-or.
> I wonder what sar would want.
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> tabithaI've wondered that, too. It was also a question that came up regarding posting her name...
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> It still feels odd to see it presented so clinically though. It was so real here and it doesn't seem real in the slides. Maybe you should include the post you made, where you quoted a post of sar's and told how it made you laugh.
I'd like to include more. Which I think would make it feel more real. But people don't give you as much time as you want to talk, or as many pages as you want to write. But everything's here for those who want more...
> Have you done any research comparing Babble to other online communities?
I've looked at that a little. Which was how I got into readability:
http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/extras.pl
> I often wonder how much applicability your research has to the online community world in general. I've always thought that Babble is Babble for better or worse (depending on your viewpoint) because you are who you are. And that because of that, in many ways from the content of our posts to the community culture to our self selection as posters, any research you do here might not be able to be meaningfully generalized. Have you factored that in?
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> DinahThat's a great question. It would be interesting to look at variables like content and culture. The question would be how to assess that...
Also, this group shows what's possible even if it's not necessarily generalizable...
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> > one of KUBLER-ROSS' most famous quotes is: "There are no mistakes, no coincidences. All events are blessings given to us to learn from"
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> Child abuse? Suicide? Torture? Genocide
> Now there is woman who could have learned the value of an "I" statementLet's keep it administrative here, OK? Thanks. :-)
Bob
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