Posted by Dr. Bob on January 15, 2003, at 1:35:04
In reply to Re: anti-Semitic language-- » IsoM, posted by OddipusRex on January 14, 2003, at 21:18:07
> > At the destination, he then told me how he would become successful and his life calling , making lots of money like a greedy jew, was better than my life calling.Sorry, but that is what he is ..a moeny worshipping abusive jew. I am a racist myself I guess.
I was referring to a different post before... The above one:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20021230/msgs/2184.html
I did let go, partly because of what Oddipus pointed out:
> > I am seriouly considering going to my local Holoaust remebrance center, and trying to locate a Holocaust victim to find out how they were able to mentally survive their abuses.
But Noa (and others of you) also make a good point:
> this board is not safe if people are allowed to make racial and ethnic slurs without some intervention.
And my policy has in fact been that why someone posts something doesn't necessarily excuse posting it, so I do think I should've addressed this. However:
> I know that Fuzzy mind is in great pain and I, too, want him to be able to get support, but I think limit setting is important. I don't want you to block him, but I do want you to give him some guidelines for posting in a non-racist manner.
>
> NoaBut how does someone with racist feelings post in a non-racist manner?
Alternative 1:
> Instead of saying "greedy Jews" why not say a greedy guy?
>
> IsoM1. Guys might feel offended. :-)
2. The person's feelings aren't just about greed, they're also about a particular group of people:> > At the destination, he then told me how he would become successful and his life calling , making lots of money like a greedy person, was better than my life calling.Sorry, but that is what he is ..a moeny worshipping abusive person. I am a racist myself I guess.
That way, the last sentence doesn't really follow...
Alternative 2:
> > At the destination, he then told me how he would become successful and his life calling , making lots of money like a greedy member of a particular ethnic group, was better than my life calling.Sorry, but that is what he is ..a moeny worshipping abusive member of a particular ethnic group. I am a racist myself I guess.
1. The wording gets kind of convoluted.
2. People might still wonder if their ethnic group is being referred to.Other suggestions?
There's also the issue of other situations:
> Should the phrases hypocritical Christian or pedophile priest or drunken Irishman or Black drug dealer or white lynch mob or treacherous female [or incompetent psychiatrist] be forbidden too? How would you word a rule on forbidden phrases?
> I agree it's better to not hurt people but I don't think we should all have to walk on eggshells for fear of being accused of bigotry. That just puts even more distance between people.
>
> OddipusRex> the lengths to which some have gone to keep things politically correct is ridiculous & many can see that.
>
> IsoMI wonder, maybe an open community just isn't the place to deal with angry feelings about particular groups of people. Since that community might include members of those groups. I'd like people who feel angry to be able to receive support here, but maybe there are limits to that. I need to remember, this board isn't for everyone...
Thanks, everyone, for your input -- and your patience. It really helps with difficult issues like this.
Bob
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