Posted by SLS on November 11, 2022, at 11:26:43
In reply to Re: Im in trouble. Please help, posted by Lamdage22 on November 10, 2022, at 3:48:48
Folks, please take the time to read this entire post. I need no affirmations. I leave it to you to evaluate its worth.
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Lamdage:> My therapist fixed me to the point of functioning again. He doesn't agree with you, I'm sure.
You (and perhaps your doctor) are talking about YOU specifically. YOU are the one who first generalized your beliefs that drugs don't work and that nutraceuticals are more effective. I believe that this is contrary to fact.
In fact, it is B U L L S H I T, and I am calling you out on it. Do you really want to influence people to give up on drugs entirely in favor of your ideas? That is the most consequential and dangerous aspect of your writing.
You are the who one that first generalized your and projected your experiences and beliefs upon everyone else. Not good. As you have said on your behalf, I don't know your doctor at all. However, I have no reason whatsoever to trust anything he has to say regarding the pathology of mood disorders. However, his opinions have absolutely no import with me. None.
I want to steer others who are reading this away from your misinformation. The repercussions of people rejecting psychopharmacology because of you, regardless of the disease being treated, is dangerous. Do you want to be responsible for a suicide by someone who listened to you? I am all but certain that my writing has universally reduced rather than increased the suicidality of others. It is my intention to give hope to others, not definitive therapeutic answers. I leave that up to the individual and their doctors. I certainly have opinions, but I am careful to specify that they are mine only. One size does not fit all when dealing with psychiatric / psychological pathologies.
As I have already indicated, I do not believe that one size fits all. I doubt I made that clear enough. I apologize for that. I have *always* maintained that somatic treatments + psychotherapy was most often more effective than somatic treatments alone - even if just for getting rid of the psychosocial stress that precipitates psychological, biological, and emotional dysfunctions in the first place. Without a reduction in the psychosocial / psychological stress an initial response is harder to elicit, and allows it to continue. This even applies to completely psychological depressions. Often, the first episode of depression is triggered by either by *chronic* psychosocial stress or a paroxysmal trauma (like loss of a spouse). However, as time passes, relapsing depressive episodes begin to occur spontaneously, and in the absence of triggering stressors.
> It is impossible to know with certainty where the problems come from,
According to whom? You again?
Have you ever seen a fluorodeoxyglucose PET scan of a depressed brain compared to a healthy one? Yes or no?
Can you name any of the various biomarkers that indicate a biological diathesis for depression? Yes or no. There are quite a few of them that have been discovered. What brought you to conclude that it was impossible to diagnose biogenic mood disorders? Did your doctor tell you that? If not, you have some catching up to do.
> even less possible with very little information.
How much information do you believe I have? How would you know?
> You didn't win, you showed us that you have a one size fits all approach."
First of all, I did win, you *ssh*l*. I am in remission because of my wholly pharmacological treatmenet.
Question: How are YOU doing these days?
"I'm in trouble. Please help."
Answer: Not good.
Perhaps your nutraceutical approach is worthless to YOU. It ain't working.
Speak for yourself or provide citations in the medical literature that proves that Scott couldn't possibly have won with an exclusively pharmacological strategy. After all, I did. Explain *that*.
I won.
I won.
I won.
If you have no psychiatric diagnosis of a major mental illness, then what DO you have (according to your doctor)?
As you said, I don't know you well enough. I only know what you wrote. I also don't know your doctor. I trust Linkadge and the abstracts and articles I find on Medline / PubMed. I am all but certain that there are very few clinical practitioners who know one tenth of what Linkadge knows about neurophysiology and pharmacology. Linkadge has proven himself to be an excellent repository of information and advanced abilities for critical thinking. I choose my sources carefully. I have enough of them right now that I don't need to add your doctor to my list.
So, what is your opinion of what I wrote here?
I won.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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