Posted by undopaminergic on January 9, 2022, at 9:04:30
In reply to Re: Chronic Terminal Depression » undopaminergic, posted by SLS on January 9, 2022, at 7:51:01
> UD:
SLS:
> > God seems to be a fun-loving sort of a guy. Therefore, he shows himself more (both quantitatively and qualitatively) in the lives of people who are having fun and feeling good, and you never feel as good as you do while manic. It is easier to be spiritual or religious when you are experiencing the presence of God.
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> When was the last time that UD experienced the presence of God?
>You mean the last *memorable* experience? I'm sad to say it has been years. I've not been "up" (whether endogenously or pharmacodynamically) for that long a period, so it does not surprise me, given my hypothesis that you quoted above. But I trust he hasn't abandoned me for good. He takes a long-term perspective, so for him, it was only a moment since the last time he manifested himself in my life.
> When was the last time that SLS did NOT experience the presence of God?
>Seriously, why do you ask me? *I* am not God so I am not able to read your mind.
> I have seen only one other person on Psycho-Babble afford his musings the quality of being Truth, and believe that he can know anything about the Mind of God.
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> You are extraordinarily assumptive. It is a good look on no one.I appear more assumptive than I really am. I did not want to litter my post with qualifiers like "It is my hypothesis that ..." and "I have come to believe that ...".
> So...
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> SLS claims to have never had a euphoric mania.I believe you. You have missed out on something.
> SLS claims that he experienced hyper-religiosity as the theme of his manic psychosis.
> SLS is lying.What exactly is SLS lying about?
> > It would not surprise me if God actively tunes out the prayers of people who are miserable. They tend to be asking him to give them stuff or do stuff for them -- would you enjoy listening to that? Neither would God I'm afraid. It's understandable, but it is sad that he is not there for you when you need him the most.
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> Oh. I just got the joke. You are being satirical! You really got SLS on that one! Don't I feel the fool.
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> Be that as it may, you are not privileged to know the Mind of God any more intimately than any of His other creations.
>I am indeed privileged to have been blessed with a number of experiences that have allowed me to infer things about God. I'm not saying there are any guarantees that my inferences reflect the truth. If nothing else, God may have been playing games with me. But if so, I am at least privileged to have been chosen by God to be part of those games.
> You are in no position to suggest to anyone, with or without depression, that their prayers go unheard by God.
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> Your words disgust me. I am horrified for you if you should really believe them.
>It reflects some of my working hypotheses. An alternative hypothesis to make sense of the appearance that God does not answer most prayers, is that he *does* answer them in his own way and in his own time (which may be in a couple of thousand years). As I said before, I believe he takes a long-term perspective.
-undopaminergic
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