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Re: Johnson + Johnson vaccine can someone explain how

Posted by alexandra_k on May 29, 2021, at 6:49:35

In reply to Re: Johnson + Johnson vaccine can someone explain how, posted by alexandra_k on May 29, 2021, at 5:42:31

sigh.

the 'information' we have been getting online is not as clear as it could (and should) have been.

mrna vaccines deliver mrna. mrna typically or usually degrades after a few days in the cytosol. it is reasonable to expect that mrna introduced with vaccine would degrade the same as mrna produced by the cell. so it would enter into the purine / pyramidine synthesis / recycle / elimination (via urine) pathway.

j&j and astrazenica deliver dna. they use adenovirus to get the dna all the way into the nucleus. it isn't an 'older and safer' technology at all. it is a very new technology and it is actually concerning what will happen to the dna that has been introduced into the nucleus imho.

they think it will only introduce a little bit of dna that codes for a harmeless (though antigen producing) bit of the spike protein.

but there are concerns around...

so, this new piece of dna has been introduced. how often will it be transcribed? will it hijack / take over so that other bits of dna won't be translated? that could kill the cell. so... how many cells are getting infected with the vaccine and what kind of insult will there be to the body if they turn out to basically spam spike protein instead of doing anything else?

the issue they are asking is: well... is there any evidence that the new piece of dna can get into germ line cells?

that is to say the gonads.

that is to say that the dna could be incorporated into the chromosome and passed on to children.

and evidence is a bit unlcear...

so...

now i am thinking...

that the reason why they suggested it for older people and halted it in younger people... was because of concerns that the DNA is being integrated into the chromosome or persisting as plasmid in the nucleus. making too much mrna / too much antigen.

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it seems / feels like every day there is a new piece of information that makes me think differently about which is safest or best or whatever. The clotting thing was very very rare. stil. very very rare. i still don't know wha tthe clots are made from...

 

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