Posted by bleauberry on February 3, 2019, at 8:29:21
In reply to I think psychiatry is a scam... ECT, my friend is, posted by Jeroen on February 2, 2019, at 16:25:54
I hear you.
I don't think psychiatry by itself is a scam, but rather, the way it is utilized by many institutions and doctors.
The drugs can provide amazing relief for symptoms immediately, if prescribed and dosed correctly. No long waits.
The problem is that the mental illness itself is being treated as the main thing, which it is not. The main thing is not being treated at all, and in fact, is not even a factor.
By "main thing' I mean the cause of the psychiatric symptoms. I firmly believe this is not the mystery most people think it is. You've got stealth pathological microbial invasions, you've got common mold toxicity, you've got gene flaws, you've got toxic metals, you've got systemic inflammation and brain inflammation, you've got increased cytokine activity, you've got food reactions, all sorts of stuff - they never consider any of these things that actually cause the symptoms in the first place!!!
All of the above are objectively measurable. There is no excuse to not look at all of those issues. But they don't look.
That's where psychiatry goes wrong. They give you a pill and never figure out the actual problem, never even attempt to, maybe a thyroid test or something, which is stupid, a very lazy non-thinking non-curious bunch of professionals in psychiatry.
That said, there are some really good folks in psychiatry. They understand you use the drugs for symptom relief, but you put greater emphasis on identifying and healing any and all problems you can find.
My mom was a nurse back in the 1950's. Do you know what psychiatry was back then? Well, when she got out of nursing school, there were NO DRUGS. They hadn't been invented yet. The first one was a heavy duty antipsychotic. So what did they do for therapy. Brace yourself. I am not kidding. They hosed the patients down with fire hoses. That was the main treatment.
You recall I did ECT. 12 bilateral shocks over a month. I felt some major improvement on the last shock which lasted just long enough for a group of psychiatrist at psychobabble to get all excited and contact me for personal testimony about it. It was striking how rapidly those researchers abandoned me when it didn't stick. It lasted like a few days and then I was back in the suicide ambulance again.
I do recall periods of greatly increased "craziness" and depression following the shocks. I can see how a schizo patient might actually get worse with ECT.
I am of the opinion that ECT is not appropriate for psychiatry, but is appropriate for mental illness, retardation, etc. It can make enough difference that a patient can be moved to a half-way home instead of a full time institution. But this is a totally different group of patients than what we see in psychiatry.
And again, back then, they made no effort to diagnose the patients actual issues. They just locked em up and shot em with high pressure water. Today is about the same thing, except the water has been replaced with a variety of chemical drugs.
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