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Re: Stimulant cross-tolerance » Christ_empowered

Posted by MightyKondrian on December 12, 2018, at 9:00:53

In reply to Re: Stimulant cross-tolerance, posted by Christ_empowered on December 7, 2018, at 10:43:18

> to a point, i think so. i was started on Ritalin. it was OK and all, but the psych i had back then insisted on prescribing $$$ new versions that were expen$ive on my insurance, whereas the adderall was in a much lower copay tier. i asked for a switch, he grudgingly obliged, and...
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> he started me out at a dose that was roughly equivalent to the mgs of ritalin I'd been prescribed, so it was a 2x dosing thing.
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> i think there are conversion guess-timates available, but...people react differently to the different uppers. i had an acquaintance back in the day who was on a good bit of Ritalin, but adderall caused panic attacks, even at low doses.
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> hope this helps a bit.

Am I right in saying both are phenethylamines? I know there are alot of different PEAs. Just have a read of PIHKAL (Alexander Shulgin). Many of them have no cross tolerance. For exple MDMA & it's cousins MDEA & MDA all have no cross tolerance. i.e. If you took MDMA one day, you need double that on the 2nd day. But if you had MDMA one day then MDA or MDEA the second you get the full effect of the other the following day. No cross tolerance. Unfortunitely they are the only other PEAs I can remember. Oh, 2CB is another. But these of course aren't really much good to use as they aren't exactly 'medicinal'. I have tried PEA itself with MAOIs and it becomes pretty strong but I wouldn't recomend it! Too much on the heart. Phenylpiracetam is another one made much stronger with an MAOI but I think that would be classed as a piracetam, tho it does contain a phenyl ring. Piracetam with a pheyl ring. Classed as a psychostim. Oops went of tract there


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